Fiba

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by The Canuck

Which rules do you think we ought to play, SmokeEater?

Well I think that FIBA makes the most sense in order to be competetive nationally and internationally. It is the easiest to learn and play under as long as all levels of ball adopt it (which is the plan here).

Here is the link I will be using to adapt to the new ruleset. http://www.fibaamericas.com/reglas_us.asp

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Aren't there also some differences in the basket interference rules. I'm pretty sure that at some point, the rule was that once the ball hit the rim, all GT and BI rules were "discontinued" (so to speak). So as long as the shot had already hit the rim, you could go into the cylinder to rebound it, or dunk it, or whatever. Is that still true?

There is no cylinder altogether. A passage can be catched and dunked even directly above the basket. When the ball hits the ring on a try, the ball is playable by everybody, unless it is in the basket (that is, some part of it is under ring level inside the basket) when only an offensive player can touch it.

It is of course forbidden to reach through the basket from below and touch the ball; unfortunately, after the ball has touched the ring, this is not BI, but a simple violation. There are rumors that this will be changed back to BI.

Touching the ball when it is completely above ring level after it has hit the backboard is goal tending (it doesn't matter, in this case, the direction of the flight, upward or downward).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

There are no timeouts called during play. That's part of the rule change....in FIBA, you can only call TO by requesting it to the scoretable, and then it will be awarded during the next dead ball.

The second part of your scenario is correct....the count will "resume" at four seconds, and will not "re-start".

When does it restart? When the ball is established in bounds or when the thrower gets the ball for the throwin?

[SmokeEater]

The 8 second count will "restart" once control is established in bounds.

[crazy voyager]

Originally Posted by canuckref

I personally find this one kinda of silly: you hold the thumb, index and middle finger to signal three point attempt VS. the pinky, ring and middle in ncaa rules.

There's a simple reason for that. In some european countries showing the pinky, ring and middle fingers is a quite rude gesture. Therefore fiba officials show thumb, index, middle insted. And also (I think) becuse it's not as easily mistaken for nr.4 as with the Ncaa signal.

And I wouldn't mind a little more fiba discussion around here

[SmokeEater]

Its comming starting in June here. Can't wait

[canuckref]

Originally Posted by crazy voyager

There's a simple reason for that. In some european countries showing the pinky, ring and middle fingers is a quite rude gesture. Therefore fiba officials show thumb, index, middle insted. And also (I think) becuse it's not as easily mistaken for nr.4 as with the Ncaa signal.

And I wouldn't mind a little more fiba discussion around here

you learn something new everyday here, thanks for the sensitivity training, I'll be more careful with my fingers!

[Mark Padgett]

I think it's ironic that a game that was invented by a Canadian while working in the United States is now going to be played in Canada under European rules.

That's just FEEBLE.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

When does it restart? When the ball is established in bounds or when the thrower gets the ball for the throwin?

Good grief, why would the count resume before the ball is inbounded?

Are there any sets of rules where this occurs?

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I think it's ironic that a game that was invented by a Canadian while working in the United States is now going to be played in Canada under European rules.

That's just FEEBLE.

Wow, you're quite the global thinker.

Not.

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I think it's ironic that a game that was invented by a Canadian while working in the United States is now going to be played in Canada under European rules.

Yes Quite IRONIC ....

[canuckref]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I think it's ironic that a game that was invented by a Canadian while working in the United States is now going to be played in Canada under European rules.

That's just FEEBLE.

save your thrusts and parries for you leotarded fencing matches.

irony would be ia a american fiba official does a game at the international level when the usa loses (oh wait, this happens all the time now )

perhaps the name of the forum should more accurately be called "american refs who only travel in the tri state area to ref a limited set of rules loosely based on nhfs/ncaa, but we make changes wherever we feel like rules don't adhere to our ball size and intelligence"

just a friendly suggestion!

[Kostja]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Aren't there also some differences in the basket interference rules. I'm pretty sure that at some point, the rule was that once the ball hit the rim, all GT and BI rules were "discontinued" (so to speak). So as long as the shot had already hit the rim, you could go into the cylinder to rebound it, or dunk it, or whatever. Is that still true?

Yes, because by definition the shot ends as soon as it hits the rim, and GT and BI only apply to shot situations.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by canuckref

save your thrusts and parries for you leotarded fencing matches.

irony would be ia a american fiba official does a game at the international level when the usa loses (oh wait, this happens all the time now )

perhaps the name of the forum should more accurately be called "american refs who only travel in the tri state area to ref a limited set of rules loosely based on nhfs/ncaa, but we make changes wherever we feel like rules don't adhere to our ball size and intelligence"

just a friendly suggestion!

OK - next time your country is at war, you can have just the French on your side.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

Good grief, why would the count resume before the ball is inbounded?

Are there any sets of rules where this occurs?

Dude, I was just asking.