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[truerookie]

I've seen the video full speed and slow motion for four days straight. I would have called a (CHARGE) in both full speed and slow motion.. The official clearly refereed the defense in the scenerio.

Someone else, mentioned where was the Trail in this situation? It is definitive that the LEAD had the call all the way. Because, the primary defender was beaten and the secondary defender established LGP so it was the Lead call to make.

MHO, those who stated it could have been a block or no call you really ASK yourself why am I doing this (officiating). It is clear it is not for the LOVE OF THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RushmoreRef]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I've seen the video full speed and slow motion for four days straight. I would have called a (CHARGE) in both full speed and slow motion.. The official clearly refereed the defense in the scenerio.

Someone else, mentioned where was the Trail in this situation? It is definitive that the LEAD had the call all the way. Because, the primary defender was beaten and the secondary defender established LGP so it was the Lead call to make.

MHO, those who stated it could have been a block or no call you really ASK yourself why am I doing this (officiating). It is clear it is not for the LOVE OF THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you saying that if a guy calls a BLOCK then he's a bad official...C'mon, it's bang-bang and we all know that a BLOCK could have been sold just as well as a CHARGE in that sit....For the record, I agree with the call and hope I would have had the same thing but I wouldn't have hung the guy out to dry if he would have called a BLOCKING foul when it happened....Meaning I can see an argument for a blocking foul when looking at it in game-speed....

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by RushmoreRef

Are you saying that if a guy calls a BLOCK then he's a bad official...C'mon, it's bang-bang and we all know that a BLOCK could have been sold just as well as a CHARGE in that sit....For the record, I agree with the call and hope I would have had the same thing but I wouldn't have hung the guy out to dry if he would have called a BLOCKING foul when it happened....Meaning I can see an argument for a blocking foul when looking at it in game-speed....

I don't think he's saying an official that calls a block here is a bad officials....it was pretty close.

What I think he's saying is that an official that calls a block becasue it's the easy call (despite knowing it was a charge) is a bad official.

There are those that say they want the kids to decide the game and base a no-call or block on that premise. In doing so, that official has actually decided the game by allowing a shot that should have been waived off due to the charge....giving the shooting team a win.

[RushmoreRef]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I don't think he's saying an official that calls a block here is a bad officials....it was pretty close.

What I think he's saying is that an official that calls a block becasue it's the easy call (despite knowing it was a charge) is a bad official.

There are those that say they want the kids to decide the game and base a no-call or block on that premise. In doing so, that official has actually decided the game by allowing a shot that should have been waived off due to the charge....giving the shooting team a win.

I'm in 100% agreement....plus I couldn't think that fast anyway...it's a total judgement in that case.

So let me say this.....It's bang-bang and you're not 100% sure BLOCK vs. CHARGE....I go with CHARGE...that's what we pregame and that's what I've got....That being said, I don't ever remember a time thinking, I'm not sure so I'm going with charge...I always have something that makes me sway one way or the other....not always right I'm sure but have never had to go through that thought process...Comments?

[fullor30]

I think a few posts are being misunderstood. I don't think anyone is suggesting that you make the wrong call to get the game over.

I shudder at what I'm going to say, since I've had all morning to think about this. The play does deserve a call one way or the other I've decided rather than a possible pass.

Our pregame on last second shots, situations etc is it better be clear cut especially on a last second shot and foul.

From what I saw I'm still going with a block on this one.

If it ever happens to me, I hope I have the guts and confidence AND positioning to make what I can determine is the correct call and live with it.

[RushmoreRef]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I think a few posts are being misunderstood. I don't think anyone is suggesting that you make the wrong call to get the game over.

I shudder at what I'm going to say, since I've had all morning to think about this. The play does deserve a call one way or the other I've decided rather than a possible pass.

Our pregame on last second shots, situations etc is it better be clear cut especially on a last second shot and foul.

From what I saw I'm still going with a block on this one.

If it ever happens to me, I hope I have the guts and confidence AND positioning to make what I can determine is the correct call and live with it.

I can understand the block....at game-speed I may have had one too...

Curious and not trying to add gas to the fire...why do you think block...because he wasn't there, game situation, position on the court...or does it just look like a block to you...only wondering.....

EDIT - sorry just read an earlier post stating you would have a block on that play earlier, I think that explained it...

[fullor30]

From my view, he's still moving as A1 has gathered the ball and about to shoot. It's soooo close yet the defender looks to me as if he initiates the contact by sliding over. No rules to cite, no same situation I had years ago, just my judgement imho. I can't argue with anyone if they go the other way.

Now Josh Paul did trap third strike to Aj in 2005 series. That I'll argue about