Two HS questions

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by hough7865

Hey all,

I coach a middle school team, and my brother is in high school, and I was watching one of his games this year and two situations happened and I wanted to know if what the officials did was correct. High School rules please...

1) I think this is what people call a BLARGE [sp?]. Three officials on the game, and there is a collision in the paint. One official called it a charge, the other a block. They gave both players a foul, called a double foul, and went with the arrow....is this correct?

2) Different game, a player on the other team got blood on his jersey. The officials let him take the jersey of a player, in the book, sitting on the bench. Is this allowed? What happens to the other player? What if they get the bloody jersey clean...can the original player use it again, and can the other player put his original jersey back on?

Thanks!

Um, that is a double foul which means you go to the point of interuption, not the arrow. The charge is a player control foul.

[Adam]

Point of interruption is the arrow if the contact happens after the unsuccessful shot is released.
It's my understanding that being a double foul makes this so it's no longer a PC foul. IOW, the basket would count if the shot was released prior to contact.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

The charge is a player control foul.

Not in this case, because the two fouls resulted in a double personal foul. But it does go POI and since there was no team control, go AP.

Edit: Snaq is correct. Read 4.19.8 Situation C.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Not in this case, because the two fouls resulted in a double personal foul. But it does go POI and since there was no team control, go AP.

Edit: Snaq is correct. Read 4.19.8 Situation C.

If there is a crash in the paint, while the ball is in possesion of the offense, then how is there no player control? I dont think becuase its a double foul doesnt mean that the PC is cancelled.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

If there is a crash in the paint, while the ball is in possesion of the offense, then how is there no player control? I dont think becuase its a double foul doesnt mean that the PC is cancelled.

Oh but it is, it's in the case book.

Here's how the ruling reads: (4.19.8 Situation C, page 28/29)

Even though air-borne shooter A1 committed a charging foul, it is not a player-control foul becasue the two fouls result in a double personal foul. The double foul does not cause the ball to become dead on the try and the goal is scored. Play is resumed at the point of interruption, which is a throw-in for Team B from anywhere along the end line.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Oh but it is, it's in the case book.

Here's how the ruling reads: (4.19.8 Situation C, page 28/29)

Even though air-borne shooter A1 committed a charging foul, it is not a player-control foul becasue the two fouls result in a double personal foul. The double foul does not cause the ball to become dead on the try and the goal is scored. Play is resumed at the point of interruption, which is a throw-in for Team B from anywhere along the end line.

My bad, but you dont go to the AP>

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

My bad, but you dont go to the AP>

In your situation you wouldn't go AP because there was team control. Give the ball back to the offensive team.

In the OP, it wasn't described if there was TC or not. Therefore, JRut and I answered they handled it correctly provided there was no team control.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

My bad, but you dont go to the AP>

There's only one reason to go AP in this play. If the shot was released before contact, but was unsuccessful. Then you have no team control so you have to go AP.

[Splute]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Oh but it is, it's in the case book.

Here's how the ruling reads: (4.19.8 Situation C, page 28/29)

Even though air-borne shooter A1 committed a charging foul, it is not a player-control foul becasue the two fouls result in a double personal foul. The double foul does not cause the ball to become dead on the try and the goal is scored. Play is resumed at the point of interruption, which is a throw-in for Team B from anywhere along the end line.

Thanks for typing this out. I do not have access to my books right now and it was driving me crazy. I remembered the double foul cancelling the PC, but somewhere I missed the double call by officials being a double foul.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by Splute

Thanks for typing this out. I do not have access to my books right now and it was driving me crazy. I remembered the double foul cancelling the PC, but somewhere I missed the double call by officials being a double foul.

You're welcome, not a problem.