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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 01:18pm
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Illegal screen = team control foul
Illegally fighting around the screen = push
Over the back = push

I don't normally say what the foul is at the table unless I need to communicate some other information like "hit him in the head" or pushed him outof bounds" That's more for the coach than the table. And you won't find that in the mechanics manual.

I'll also add there's no real need to give foul, color, number at the spot unless it's unusual situation, and you won't find that in the manual either.

You will find in the manual that you should indicate the number of shots at the location if the offended team is shooting.

Dan:

An illegal screen is usually blocking but could possibly be pushing; furthermore, if the illegal screen is by the defense it cannot be a team control foul.

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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 01:31pm
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Dan:

An illegal screen is usually blocking but could possibly be pushing; furthermore, if the illegal screen is by the defense it cannot be a team control foul.

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Mark,

I'll agree a screen can be set by a defender and if illegal would be reported as a block.

I'll disagree that an illegal offensive screen is reported as a block. It is a team control foul and is reported as such. A team control foul, as you know, is penalized differently than the other common fouls.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:30pm
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You do both while reporting. Team-control signal and then the type of foul that was committed (block, push, etc.).
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:40pm
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You do both while reporting. Team-control signal and then the type of foul that was committed (block, push, etc.).
No I don't. No reason to.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 10:22am
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So, I've got some more church league games this weekend and want to spend these games focusing on mechanics. I think I've got the routine down for calling fouls: whistle, clenched fist, call color, number, signal type of foul to offending player, report to table, color/number/type again, signal shots or spot of throw in.

Is that right?
Yup.

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Also, some of the slang terms we use for fouls don't have actualy signals for them, so what do you use in these cases:

Illegal screen (push? PCF?)
Illegally fighting around the screen
Over the back (push again? or illegal use of hands)
The illegal screen is usually a block for me. Fighting through the screen is a push. Rebounding fouls are usually a push also.

Just a note, the illegal screen is almost never a player control foul. To be a PC foul, the player must be holding or dribbling the ball (or be an airborne shooter). The player with the ball is almost never the one to be guilty of a bad screen. It is, however, a team control foul now. This is signalled with the "punch".

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Also, do you audibly call out the type of foul when you give the signal or do you just give it?

Thanks!
I personally do not verbalize the foul at the spot of the foul. I'm probably supposed to, but I don't. I just indicate which team it's against and if we're shooting or possession. At the table, I give the signal, but again I don't say it.
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Old Fri Feb 16, 2007, 10:30am
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I prefer to to give the shirt color and number at the spot of the foul. I also give my partner the shooter and how many we're shooting or where we are putting the ball in play, ALL at the spot of the foul. THis helps your partner get the game ready to play after you've reported to the table.
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