Dunk or Illegal Dribble

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

so then whats the distinction between a pass hitting the rim and no reset of the shot clock?

This distinction happens in other aspects as well. When a player shoots an airball, he may retrieve the rebound. Yet, it does not reset the shot clock. Same distinction, same principal, same rules.

[deecee]

ok but thats a shot and he can get the airball -- how about in a non shot situation where the ball hits the backboard, rim or nothing? legal?

[Adam]

Generally, if it hits the rim or backboard, it's considered a shot even if it didn't look purposeful. If you think he's trying for a shot, then it's a shot. Only one requirement must be met, not both.

[KCRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Generally, if it hits the rim or backboard, it's considered a shot even if it didn't look purposeful. If you think he's trying for a shot, then it's a shot. Only one requirement must be met, not both.

But on a freethrow it has to hit the rim to be considered a shot? Otherwise it is a violation? This rim restriction only applies to a freethrow then? (I am really asking. Not trying to be smart.)

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by KCRef

But on a freethrow it has to hit the rim to be considered a shot? Otherwise it is a violation? This rim restriction only applies to a freethrow then? (I am really asking. Not trying to be smart.)

It's a shot whether it hits the rim or not. If it does not hit the rim, the thrower has committed a free throw violation as the rules requires him to throw it so that it hits the rim.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Generally, if it hits the rim or backboard, it's considered a shot even if it didn't look purposeful. If you think he's trying for a shot, then it's a shot. Only one requirement must be met, not both.

ok so when you KNOW it wasnt a shot attempt and it hits the rim or backboard what do you have? or can a trapped player just launch the ball at the backboard or rim to get around the defense and get the ball unabated? just a question?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by deecee

ok so when you KNOW it wasnt a shot attempt and it hits the rim or backboard what do you have? or can a trapped player just launch the ball at the backboard or rim to get around the defense and get the ball unabated? just a question?

It is always a judgment call. And unless you are a mind reader, and personally I'm sureasheck not, you can never be 100% sure that anything thrown off the glass wasn't meant to be a try. It's impossible to KNOW that it's not a shot attempt.

Iow, any doubt, rule it a "try".

[deecee]

in this instance for the dunk putback you KNOW its not a try -- so in this case what do you have if he doesnt dunk but comes back down to earth with the ball?

just conjecture here JR -- I dont disagree that its legal if its a shot attempt -- i was basing what I said earlier on the fact that its NOT a shot attempt.

[lukealex]

I remember the pass off the glass then dunking by Traci McGrady a few years back in the all star game. Nothing was called. Yes it is the NBA and nobody cares anyways

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

in this instance for the dunk putback you KNOW its not a try -- so in this case what do you have if he doesnt dunk but comes back down to earth with the ball?

just conjecture here JR -- I dont disagree that its legal if its a shot attempt -- i was basing what I said earlier on the fact that its NOT a shot attempt.

To me, there are two criteria to determine whether it's a try or not for purposes of rebounding eligibility.
1. If I judge his intent is to put the ball through the basket, it's a try.
2. If the ball hits the player's backboard or rim, it's a try.
Both don't need to be met; only one.