T on Coach with 10 seconds left

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by dblref

Hang on there a second Terps Fan. Weren't you the one last week who posted about a coach "begging for a T", but you wouldn't give him one. If you wouldn't do it then, why do it now? Not criticizing, just curious.

Yeah, that's the same guy.

Are Coaches Crazy?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Just when I start thinking that maybe Old Azz might have something going on upstairs after all, he comes out and tells someone to go ahead and cheat and adds a little wink like that would be really, really funny...

I don't have a problem with ignoring the coach for the last 10 seconds, but hbio, don't ever follow that last piece of crap advice...

The OP admitted it was a bad game. He had already called about 6 technicals in the game. It didn't appear that the coaches was doing their part very well either to help makes things better. Nope, I told him he couldn't stand, he stood up anyway. That's not smart coaching. You demand the best out of me, how about you do your part. I would never tell anyone to cheat, shame on you for suggesting such a thing on a referee board. However, my judgment might be persuaded one way or the other depending on the circumstances. For example; if I got a real good game, I might call that marginal foul a foul, team/players earned it, however, under the same token, I'm at the end of a game that has gone bad, a marginal foul might not get called at all, it's my judgment. Game! Next! or go home.

Consider this if you will, you want me to call a 2-shot foul in a 2-point game with 10 seconds left that could potentially tie the game and send it to overtime, in a game that's gone bad! You think about that! We got coaches that don't respect your authority, players that are undiscipline. Survival skills young man, survival of the fittest and something they won't tell you out here but I will be honest with you, survival is really for the smartest. And last, I will preference this with, if I'm making $1200 per official for the game, we're playing it out and I'm ignoring the coach in the last 10 seconds. On the other hand, if I'm making $20 for the game, game over! Survival skills....

[Terrapins Fan]

If you wouldn't do it then, why do it now? Not criticizing, just curious.

Hmmmmmm, let me think....my game was 20 point spread, the coach losing WANTED the "T". This game, 2 points. That's the difference.

This coach was warned. But still did what he wanted to do. What would happen if the other coach got up off the bench? what if they came out of their boxes? What's the penalty?

I understand " Let the kids decide" but this coach disobeyed his warning. Yeah, Let the kids decide, but the coach broke the rule. It's unfair to the team following the rules to allow the other team not to follow the rule. You put them at a disadvange.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Hmmmmmm, let me think....my game was 20 point spread, the coach losing WANTED the "T". This game, 2 points. That's the difference.

This coach was warned. But still did what he wanted to do. What would happen if the other coach got up off the bench? what if they came out of their boxes? What's the penalty?

I understand " Let the kids decide" but this coach disobeyed his warning. Yeah, Let the kids decide, but the coach broke the rule. It's unfair to the team following the rules to allow the other team not to follow the rule. You put them at a disadvange.

Thanks for clearing that up.

So the coach who was publicly ripping you a new one was following the rules?

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by Old School

Consider this if you will, you want me to call a 2-shot foul in a 2-point game with 10 seconds left that could potentially tie the game and send it to overtime, in a game that's gone bad!

If the foul is deserved it should be called.

"marginal" - How does this word even come in to an Officials vocabulary? Thats like telling someone they are marginally pregnant IMO.

I was giving you benefit of doubt OS for some of your posts marginally had common sense littered in them. I can now see through the fog and its not a pretty sight.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

If the foul is deserved it should be called.

"marginal" - How does this word even come in to an Officials vocabulary? Thats like telling someone they are marginally pregnant IMO.

I was giving you benefit of doubt OS for some of your posts marginally had common sense littered in them. I can now see through the fog and its not a pretty sight.

Marginal is valid in officiating, IMO. We make judgment calls all the time, I didn't think that was a foul, it was marginal, could have been, one official might say yes, another might say no. Margin of error, margin of degree of contact, margin of degree of difficulty, you got no chance of making that shot, therefore, I'm not bailing you out with a foul.

Come on, marginally pregnant, you're out there! I can now see thru the fog too, and that's a dumbazz comparison to me. Go eat some more smoke, it might help with the fog in your life.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by AFHusker

As I'm heading to administer the FT after reporting the foul, a team member from B asked "why didn't you call those when it f&$#ing mattered?" Wack. B's varsity coach was behind the table, I don't think he heard what was said, says that's a rookie call in a game like that.

If he wants varsity calls, his players need to play a varsity game!

[Terrapins Fan]

it's 20 points verses 2 point.....

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

it's 20 points verses 2 point.....

That's not a very convincing argument.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

it's 20 points verses 2 point.....

Some kinda mercy rule?

Down by 20 and you get to verbally beat the sh1t out of the officials?

[chartrusepengui]

If ya give a warning - ya gotta follow it with a T when he is in noncompliance with the rules. If you don't you are in deeeeeeeeep doo the next time(s) you have him.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Some kinda mercy rule?

Down by 20 and you get to verbally beat the sh1t out of the officials?

Hell no, and not when you're up by 20 either. I wacked a coach who had a 20 point lead with 36 seconds left this weekend.

[Raymond]

My only ejection of a coach in my career came with his team up by 40 points.

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

My only ejection of a coach in my career came with his team up by 40 points.

Must have been something on TV he wanted to watch that night.

Back to the OP, I've said this before and I'll probably say it again. Coaches are like kids. They need one warning, that's it. Because if you give them more than one warning, they push it. What did you say, "Coach, I'm warning you. . .if you stand up I may have to warn you again!" Probably not. No matter what the violation, no matter what the situation, if I have to give a warning for it, then the consequence comes the very next time. Otherwise you have no credibility. If you give more than one warning, they expect warnings to keep coming, and then rightfully get angry with you when you finally give the consequence. If you warned him once, he has nobody to blame but himself when he does it again.

[Mregor]

Hopefully you didn't get writer's cramp filling out all the game reports.