Are Coaches Crazy?

[grunewar]

HEY! My wife is a Welk and that's my father-in-laws late second cousin. I think. Lay off the Welk's!!!!! They're really a fun bunch!!

[Terrapins Fan]

I'm curious...what is the rules or philosophical basis for not giving the coach a T simply because he wants it? You've said you didn't give it to him because he wanted it, but I'm interested in knowing why.

Because he was trying to get to me. He wanted the "T"

AND, if I "T" him up, I have to write a report as to WHY I "T"ed him up. If he were winning, he would have gotten the "T", If it were a close game, he would have gotten it. but down 30, what's it going to do?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Because he was trying to get to me. He wanted the "T"

AND, if I "T" him up, I have to write a report as to WHY I "T"ed him up. If he were winning, he would have gotten the "T", If it were a close game, he would have gotten it. but down 30, what's it going to do?

It's going to teach his JV girls team that even the coach can't get away with poor sportsmanship, no matter what the game situation is.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It's going to teach his JV girls team that even the coach can't get away with poor sportsmanship, no matter what the game situation is.

And if he keeps getting them, the school may get a clue and find someone who acutally can coach, which benefits everyone.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

AND, if I "T" him up, I have to write a report as to WHY I "T"ed him up. If he were winning, he would have gotten the "T", If it were a close game, he would have gotten it. but down 30, what's it going to do?

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Because he was trying to get to me. He wanted the "T"

AND, if I "T" him up, I have to write a report as to WHY I "T"ed him up. If he were winning, he would have gotten the "T", If it were a close game, he would have gotten it. but down 30, what's it going to do?

The truth comes out. Too damn lazy to do the paperwork afterward. Just get one of the many canned reports your association has on file from past incidents, modify it a little, and slap a stamp on it. How hard can that be? By letting this go on and on the whole game, you made a travesty of the whole situation.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

The truth comes out. Too damn lazy to do the paperwork afterward. Just get one of the many canned reports your association has on file from past incidents, modify it a little, and slap a stamp on it. How hard can that be? By letting this go on and on the whole game, you made a travesty of the whole situation.

Nah, he's just kidding us.

It's all a big joke.

[Terrapins Fan]

To be honest, I don't see how "T"ing the guy up helps the game. If I gave a "T" every time a coach showed unsportsman like conduct, I'd give a couple of "T"s every night.

If the palyers talked to us like the coaches so, we'd "T" them up, but we put up with. I was not going to give this guy what he wanted. Period. If this guy were from a state where I didn't have to write a report, he still doesn't get the "T" . BECAUSE HE WANTED IT.

He embarrassed his team and his fans.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

To be honest, I don't see how "T"ing the guy up helps the game. If I gave a "T" every time a coach showed unsportsman like conduct, I'd give a couple of "T"s every night.

If the palyers talked to us like the coaches so, we'd "T" them up, but we put up with. I was not going to give this guy what he wanted. Period. If this guy were from a state where I didn't have to write a report, he still doesn't get the "T" . BECAUSE HE WANTED IT.

He embarrassed his team and his fans.

And you are embarrassing yourself here.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

And you are embarrassing yourself here.

And his fellow officials there......

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

To be honest, I don't see how "T"ing the guy up helps the game. If I gave a "T" every time a coach showed unsportsman like conduct, I'd give a couple of "T"s every night.

If the palyers talked to us like the coaches so, we'd "T" them up, but we put up with. I was not going to give this guy what he wanted. Period. If this guy were from a state where I didn't have to write a report, he still doesn't get the "T" . BECAUSE HE WANTED IT.

He embarrassed his team and his fans.

Some one should say it, so I will.

He might have embarrassed his self, his team, his fans and the state he was born in, but he humiliated you.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

If I gave a "T" every time a coach showed unsportsman like conduct, I'd give a couple of "T"s every night.

Un-freaking-believable.

If you start giving out technical fouls for unsportsmanlike behavior, maybe you wouldn't always be the recipient of unsportsmanlike behavior.

You're in the wrong avocation, Fan. Officiating obviously isn't for you.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

To be honest, I don't see how "T"ing the guy up helps the game. If I gave a "T" every time a coach showed unsportsman like conduct, I'd give a couple of "T"s every night.

And every time you worked those games the coaches would know you aren't putting up with any bullsh!t and your games would go a lot smoother.

Here's my story about dealing with a coach who showed unsportsman-like conduct every game:

Used to have a HS GV coach around here who had a reputation for being an a$$-hole (well deserved IMO). Two seasons ago in the first game of the season I T him up 4 minutes into the game. Coach of course is completely shocked but sits down, shuts up, and his team goes on to win the game easily. Towards the end of the season I have him again, this time at his place. He sees me as I'm headed to the locker room before the game and makes a comment about me T'ing him up earlier in the season. Games starts, he being a jerk as usual, but he's not saying anything T-worthy in the first half. 3rd quarter, his team is now up by 40 and he's unhappy about a no-call in front of his bench. Ball goes the other way and my partner has a foul against the other team (Partner doesn't report foul immediately b/c he has to break up some players from a pile). Home
Coach is still going off about the no-call at the other end and before my partner can make it towards the table I T up the Home Coach. I turn away from him still waiting on my partner but Coach is stilling going off and is out the box, so I T him again. (Yes, I have just ejected a coach who was up by 40 points)
Well, I didn't have that coach again untill the next season. Coach shakes my hand in pre-game, but my partner does all the talking (coincidentally same partner as ejection game). Games starts, coach says 2 things to me all night and his behavior is pretty much exemplary. My 3 techs the previous season taught that coach that I wouldn't put up with his behavior and it made my last game with him an uneventful experience.

Do not put up with unsporting behavior, period. Grow some gonads and take care of business. The coaches and players will adjust. When I walk onto Rec League and military intramural courts with my stripes on, the coaches and players know I'm not going to tolerate any bullsh!t.

[refnrev]

Terp, You had to give the guy at least one T and probably should have tossed him before the night was over. There's just no justification for not doing so.

[Texas Aggie]

The answer in this situation is exactly what I did earlier this year: assess a flagrant technical and an ejection with one. A coach who's team was getting stomped gradually built up more and more contempt. He hadn't yet reached the screaming point (an automatic T), but it was clear he was asking for it so he could use that to blame us for the loss. He was warned, then kept going, so he was tossed. Never bounced a coach, but he deserved it and he damn well knew it, too.

I agree with most of the other posters as it appears you let stuff go that shouldn't be let go. But if you do want to wait because you think they are baiting you into one for whatever reason, if they clearly cross the line, toss him. I can assure you that, along with a report filed, he won't do it again.