Crazy play

[stan-MI]

From my Tuesday night boys varsity game:

Twice in the first half, we used the resuming play procedure because V wasn't breaking its huddle after time outs. The first time, we put the ball on the floor and V barely gets to it for a timely throw in. Second time, V still is in its huddle when we hand the ball to H for a full court pass and a layup.

Now we're in the 3rd quarter, coming out of a time out. H will have the ball for an end line throw in following a V basket. Neither team breaks from its huddle after 2 horns and a verbal warning after the first horn. I blow my whistle and place the ball on the floor. H is just breaking its huddle. V1 runs onto the court and, on my count of four, grabs the ball and inbounds to V2.

Oops, it was H's ball. Instead of a 5-second count against H, we've got a delay of game warning on V. I don't think Coach H understood what happened. Coach V, who was up 30 at the time, just buried his head in his hands.

And you thought that only happened in middle school girls games!

[williebfree]

Originally posted by stan-MI
From my Tuesday night boys varsity game:

And you thought that only happened in middle school girls games!

We expect it in MS Girls games!

Actually, I did a trio of MS games last night (7th Grade Boys, 8th grade boys, and 8th grade girls), the girls game was the best coached and played game of the three.

NOTE: 8th Grade boys game had the coach ejection for 2 direct Ts (see "Why are we reluctant to call Ts?")

[rainmaker]

Okay, I'll tell you my Resuming-Play-Procedure story from when my daughter played. I know I am remembering this correctly, even though I wasn't a ref at the time it happened. I was fascinated at the way it went and how obvious the rules were and how clearly the ref communicated the whole situation.

Girls varsity, third quarter, close playoff game. Full time out (we had fulls back then, not 60s). Horn sounds. Ref blows. Horn sounds again. No one breaks. Ref blows....blows again. Finally put ball down for V. Neither huddle breaks. Ref gives the full treatment with a big visual 5-count. Blows whistle again. Yells loudly, "Benson ball! White ball!" Still, neither huddle breaks. Ref begins 5-count again. At this point, one of my daughter's (Benson, home) teammates recognizes the situation, grabs her friend and races across the floor, grabs the ball, and tosses it to friend, who shoots an easy three. As this is happening, V coach sees Benson grab what he thinks should be his ball, he runs onto the floor and gets a T. Benson hits both free throws, and gets the ball at half-court. V players are rattled. Benson throws in, player dribbles to sweet spot and hits another easy three. Eight quick points because one little Benson gal knew the rules! It would be an even better story if Benson had just won!

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by rainmaker
It would be an even better story if Benson had just won!

I guess that means that Benson lost. Apparently, Clayton Endicott III finally got the better of him!

[stripes]

Originally posted by rainmaker
Full time out (we had fulls back then, not 60s).

Interesting. We still have fulls. Never knew they left. I must have missed the memo.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by stripes

Interesting. We still have fulls. Never knew they left. I must have missed the memo.

Havent you done any Fed in the last two years? We lost them first of last season -- no more fulls, only 30s and 60s.

[Nevadaref]

Originally posted by rainmaker
Okay, I'll tell you my Resuming-Play-Procedure story from when my daughter played. I know I am remembering this correctly, even though I wasn't a ref at the time it happened. I was fascinated at the way it went and how obvious the rules were and how clearly the ref communicated the whole situation.

Girls varsity, third quarter, close playoff game. Full time out (we had fulls back then, not 60s). Horn sounds. Ref blows. Horn sounds again. No one breaks. Ref blows....blows again. Finally put ball down for V. Neither huddle breaks. Ref gives the full treatment with a big visual 5-count. Blows whistle again. Yells loudly, "Benson ball! White ball!" Still, neither huddle breaks. Ref begins 5-count again. At this point, one of my daughter's (Benson, home) teammates recognizes the situation, grabs her friend and races across the floor, grabs the ball, and tosses it to friend, who shoots an easy three. As this is happening, V coach sees Benson grab what he thinks should be his ball, he runs onto the floor and gets a T. Benson hits both free throws, and gets the ball at half-court. V players are rattled. Benson throws in, player dribbles to sweet spot and hits another easy three. Eight quick points because one little Benson gal knew the rules! It would be an even better story if Benson had just won!

FYI, this whole play is detailed in 7.5.1.
However, just to push the issue, didn't the Benson team break rule 10-1-9? That is a technical foul!


[Edited by Nevadaref on Feb 1st, 2003 at 05:25 AM]

[Kelvin green]

I am with stripes on this one..

Which memo did I miss that says it's 60's and 30's?

Then again who cares? I report to my timers full time out or short time out and give appropriate signal. Oh well one more thing for me to be marked down in my evaluations.

[mick]

Originally posted by stan-MI
V1 runs onto the court and, on my count of four, grabs the ball and inbounds to V2.

Oops, it was H's ball. Instead of a 5-second count against H, we've got a delay of game warning on V. I don't think Coach H understood what happened. Coach V, who was up 30 at the time, just buried his head in his hands.

stan-MI,

Friday night. Varsity.

Hasn't broken the huddle.

V1 runs off the the court and, on my count of Two, grabs the ball and inbounds to V2.

Oops, it was H's ball.

V1, after my whistle blew, "I can do that can't I?"

"Buddy, you just bailed 'em out."

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by rainmaker
Havent you done any Fed in the last two years? We lost them first of last season -- no more fulls, only 30s and 60s.

I guess I'm confused. What's the difference between a 60 and a full?

[mick]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

I guess I'm confused. What's the difference between a 60 and a full?

A wry wit may be wasted, instead of tasted.

[Nevadaref]

Originally posted by mick

stan-MI,

Friday night. Varsity.

Hasn't broken the huddle.

V1 runs off the the court and, on my count of Two, grabs the ball and inbounds to V2.

Oops, it was H's ball.

V1, after my whistle blew, "I can do that can't I?"

"Buddy, you just bailed 'em out."

Just wondering if you guys are calling a T for this or are letting them slide with a violation.
9-2 Penalty #3 If an opponent(s) of the thrower reaches through the throw-in boundary-line plane and touches or dislodges the ball, a technical foul shall be charged to the offender. No warning for delay required.

[mick]

Originally posted by Nevadaref

Just wondering if you guys are calling a T for this or are letting them slide with a violation.
9-2 Penalty #3 If an opponent(s) of the thrower reaches through the throw-in boundary-line plane and touches or dislodges the ball, a technical foul shall be charged to the offender. No warning for delay required.

...warning for breaking the plane.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by mick

...warning for breaking the plane.

Tower Philosophy?

[mick]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

...warning for breaking the plane.

Tower Philosophy? [/B][/QUOTE]

Why not? It's only a game.