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Old Wed Mar 19, 2008, 10:02am
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Originally Posted by vbzebra

Still trying to find a rule where it would NOT count the bucket for "foul", "whistle", "horn", "release", where clock couldn't get stopped in time.

Any help would be great
See rule 6-7-6. Note that exception (a) is not applicable because the try is not in flight when the horn sounded. Sooooooo, in this situation.....foul-->whistle-->horn-->release....you would NOT count the bucket.

Also see case book play 5.6.2SitD.
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Old Wed Mar 19, 2008, 10:38am
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See rule 6-7-6. Note that exception (a) is not applicable because the try is not in flight when the horn sounded. Sooooooo, in this situation.....foul-->whistle-->horn-->release....you would NOT count the bucket.

Also see case book play 5.6.2SitD.
That's the particular rule/wording I'd been looking for, in 6-7-6 exception c saying "provided time did not expire before the ball was in flight".

So here's the exception saying that in this foul case, the ball must be "released" before horn, even though "act of shooting" motion began before horn ended and release came after horn. Thanks a bunch. Just wanted to find it in rule book. It may never happen to me in a game, but if it does, I want to be able to calmly refer the irate coach of the shooter's team to the rule that says the basket does NOT count (and I'm sure he/she will have a litter of kittens on that particular call) Thanks again!
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Old Wed Mar 19, 2008, 10:41am
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PTS solves this whole problem
No it doesn't. The time put back on the clock is when the foul occurred not when the whistle blew. The whistle might blow after the horn and time still gets put back on.
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Old Wed Mar 19, 2008, 02:01pm
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No it doesn't. The time put back on the clock is when the foul occurred not when the whistle blew. The whistle might blow after the horn and time still gets put back on.
Huh? What's the rule backing for this? AFAIK, you cannot put time back on the clock unless it was not properly stopped and if the ref has definite knowledge. Not properly stopped requires a whistle, and the clock continuing to run after the whistle.
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