Coach's question

[budjones05]

So far this year I have had :
1.a five second closely guarded in the back court-You have every right to be upset with this rule. a closely guared situation occurs when a player in control of the ball in his/her team's frontcourt. If you live in Missouri, this is a protestable rule.

2.an opponent call time out during a pass and been told this is legal because there is team possession during a pass. Rule 4-12-2 through 6 states a team is in control of the ball when a player of a team is in control while a live ball is being passed among teammates and during an interrupted dribble(ART 2) Team control continues intil a. the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal; b an opponent secures control; c, the ball becomes dead (ART 3) while the ball remains live a loose ball always remains control of the teamwhos player last had control , unless it is a try or tap for goal. (ART 4) Team control does not exist during a jump ball or the touching of a rebound, but is reestablished when a player secures control. (ART 5) Neither team control nor player control exists during a deab ball, throw-in, jump ball, or when the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal.

3.twice been told you cannot be the first to touch the ball back in bounds when you deflect the ball and your momentum carries you out of bound. Rule 9-3-1 and 2 A player shall not caus the ball to go out of bounds(ART 1) and A player shall not leave the floor for an unauthorized reason.( ARt 2)

4. I have been told I cannot yell foul at the end of the game or it will be an intentional foul. Rule 4-17-19 An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul which neutralizes an opponents obvious advantageous postion, Contract away from the ball or when not making a legitimate attempt to play the ball or player, SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO STOP OR KEEP THE CLOCK FROM STARTING, shall be intentional. Intentionals fouls may or may nnot be premeditated and are not based solely on the severity of the act. A foul also shall be ruled intentional if while playing the ball a player causes excessive contact with an opponent

5. During the captains meeting been told a prewrap in the girls hair must be the same color. This was a month after the NFHS and the state of Illinois had made a clarificaton. ...What is a prewrap? If it is some type of a sweatband, headwear or head decorations, then it must meet the following guidelines: headbands and sweatbands must be white or similar in color to the torso of the jersey and must be the same color for each iteam and all participants. Only one item is permitted on the head and on each wrist. Items must be mositure-absorbing, nonabrasive and unaorned. Headbans may bea maximum of 2 inches......Rubber/cloth (elastic) bands may be used to control hair. Head decorations, except those specified above, are prohibited.

These are just a few I can think of at this time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by budjones05

Rule 4-12-2 through 6 states a team is in control of the ball when....

Team control isn't relevant for a timeout request. "Player control" must be in place for a timeout to be granted during a live ball. The only exception to this is when the ball is at the disposal of the thrower during a throwin, the coach of the throwin team may also request a timeout. During a pass, while team control is still present, a timeout may not be granted. If it was just team control, then a timeout could be granted during an interrupted dribble. Or a team could call timeout after the ball flies back to the backcourt to avoid the backcourt violation.

Originally Posted by budjones05

Rule 9-3-1 and 2 A player shall not caus the ball to go out of bounds(ART 1) and A player shall not leave the floor for an unauthorized reason.( ARt 2)

Again, not relevant. A player whose momentum carries her OOB (this is considered an authorized reason) may come back in and be the first to touch the ball. It's the refs who call this incorrectly who perpetuate this myth.

Originally Posted by budjones05

...What is a prewrap?

Prewrap is the stuff they put on underneath athletic tape to prevent the tape from sticking to the skin. NFHS has specifically stated it's allowed and color is not an issue.

Coach, you're probably not going to get anywhere with these during a game, unfortunately. Your only viable recourse would probably be through your state association or through your AD to the assigners of your area. Missed rules should be addressed, but coaches aren't going to have any luck during a game.
At best, you might want to suggest they check the rule when they get home that night. It might work, if you do it politely enough. Don't be too surprised, though, if the response costs you the coaching box.

[Snake~eyes]

Wow, even in this thread there are several officials who wrote incorrrect rulingsf or the 5 plays listed. Regardless, the officials were wrong in all 5 plays.

[mplagrow]

By now, coach, you surely realize that not all officials will always call perfect games. And while you are correct on all five counts, it will be difficult to get the refs to get together an confer on a call without using a time-out to do so. By the time you have a quarter break or dead ball to discuss it, it will likely be too late to reverse it. Personally, when I coach, I usually deal with whatever mistakes are made by the officials and try to deal more with the mistakes made by my players. I have a little more control over that. Although, I can think of two times in about 8 years of coaching basketball that I got calls reversed. One was three seconds in the lane while the ball was in the backcourt (it was actually called on my opponent and I set the ref straight). The other was three seconds in the lane while shots were attempted. The ref had blown it dead, and my player made the shot, but they decided to award us the ball at the baseline instead of counting the basket.

Oh, and those were 8th grade games, not JV or V, thank God!

However, I wouldn't hesitate to talk to the refs at the half or after the game and tell them your understanding of the rule. Perhaps you can prevent them from making that mistake in the future. And certainly share it with your AD and/or assignor.

[JRutledge]

What level were these games? I also live in Illinois and it will depend on what level it was to how this could be reported.

Peace