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Old Tue Jan 16, 2007, 08:09am
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Make sure you know WTF you're talking about before you disagree with me.

How is it a violation? If the free thrower hasn't started the throwing motion it is not a violation, if it was the play would say it was a violation. Where in Case Play 9.1.1 does it say that what happen is a violation???
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Old Tue Jan 16, 2007, 08:15am
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How is it a violation? If the free thrower hasn't started the throwing motion it is not a violation, if it was the play would say it was a violation. Where in Case Play 9.1.1 does it say that what happen is a violation???
I apologize, I missed that she ran after the ball!
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Old Tue Jan 16, 2007, 08:25am
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How is it a violation? If the free thrower hasn't started the throwing motion it is not a violation, if it was the play would say it was a violation. Where in Case Play 9.1.1 does it say that what happen is a violation???
If the FT shooter moves to recover the fumbled ball, they will commit a FT violation as per NFHS rule 9-1-7. Case book play 9.1.1 says that you can avoid calling the violation IF you blow your whistle BEFORE the violation is committed. If the FT shooter commits the violation BEFORE you blow your whistle though, then it is too late to re-set the play, by rule.

As Z said above though, don't be a plumber. Just re-set the damn thing- especially with 10 year old kids.
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Old Tue Jan 16, 2007, 09:38pm
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If one of my local ref league refs called this against a 10 year old, I'd smack him (or her, Juulie) upside the head with a frying pan, then make him (or her) sit in a closet reading all of Old Tool's posts while listening to an endless loop of Billy Packer rules comments.
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Old Wed Jan 17, 2007, 12:15pm
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UH . . . I would NEVER make that call in YOUR league . . . I can handle the whole frying pan thing, even reading Old Tool's comments, but Billy Packer . . . NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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We seem to have several players locally who are now passing the ball around their body a couple of times before a couple of bounces and then the attempt.

I would be more apt to call a violation on someone doing this who then drops the ball past the line and goes to retrieve it.
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Old Wed Jan 17, 2007, 03:56pm
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We seem to have several players locally who are now passing the ball around their body a couple of times before a couple of bounces and then the attempt.

I would be more apt to call a violation on someone doing this who then drops the ball past the line and goes to retrieve it.
Ha !
I have to say that the temptation to call it would be very real.
Dunno if I could.
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Old Wed Jan 17, 2007, 04:05pm
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What would you do, as an officiating crew, if the FT shooter decides to go talk to the coach as the L is ready to administer the 1st FT?

The player actually went to the sideline and held a brief conversation with the coach...as the officials were telling him to go back to the line.
(I wasn't there, so I don't know how many times the officials had to tell the player...or how long it took the player to go back to the line.)
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