granting time-out as player goes oob

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.

The player requests the TO before the violation occurs. You don't penalize him for failing to blow your whistle quickly enough.

The concept as you explain it is not difficult to grasp. My question, which perhaps I did not fully understand myself, is whether when the rule was written that it was significant that the request itself, or when it was recognized, was not listed among the things which make the ball become dead. According to everyone, this is not significant. Okay, I give up and accept this. But, along the way this led to impromptu explanations of when the timeout is considered to be granted. In a nutshell, when they need it granted quickly, it's done. But, when they request a time-out after a violation has already occurred, we have the flexibility to double-check the request and then not grant it at all. Is there another set of circumstances in the rules which is comparable to this? I haven't been able to think of one.