Pitt/OKState clock error

[TriggerMN]

30.1 seconds left in the Pittsburgh-Oklahoma State game. Pitt down 3, shooting the 2nd free throw of 2. Free throw is missed. Pitt rebounds, passes, and makes a 3-pointer to tie the game. The clock never started until the ball passed through the hoop. At this point it starts while Oklahoma State is attempting to inbound. It runs down to 24.2 before it stops on the official's whistle.

After reviewing the play on the monitor, the officials put 25.1 seconds on the clock.

Can someone give a rule reference as to why?

With no definite knowledge of how much time should have run off, shouldn't they set it back to 30.1 and chalk it up to a timer's error? Can NCAA officials use a stopwatch and a monitor to correctly determine how much time to take off the clock in this situation?

[OHBBREF]

NCAA the clock should have stopped when the basket went in - so they went to the monitor to see how much time ran off - I thought from the rplay they showed us that it was closer to 27 seconds but they have the ability to syncronize the clocks on that monitor court side so I would presume with all of the time they took they got it right.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

NCAA the clock should have stopped when the basket went in

The real problem is that the clock never started when unsuccessful free throw was touched inbounds. The clock started after it went through the basket for the subsequent 3-point basket.

Without being in the huddle, I think that the referee (Ed Hightower?) went to the monitor and watched it in real time and counted off 5 seconds. I was sitting on my couch watching the replay, saying "one thousand one, one thousand two, one thousand three. . ." and I got to 5. My guess is that Mr. Hightower counted manually so he'd have definite knowledge and then told the clock operator to take off 5 seconds from the original time.

Anyone also notice that as they were sorting out the timing error, a sub reported to enter the game? The officials correctly denied his entry into the game.

By the way, was that just a fantastic game to watch, or what? Close the whole way, good officiating and double OT.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

By the way, was that just a fantastic game to watch, or what? Close the whole way, good officiating and double OT.

BTW, that's rule 3-4-7. For some reason it is worded differently for the men's and women's side. Can anyone shed any light on why NCAA-M and NCAA-W don't used the same wording for this rule?

• Art. 7. (Men) Substitution shall not be allowed when the game is stopped
  in the last 59.9 seconds of the second half or any extra period to correct a
  timing mistake or for an inadvertent whistle.

• Art. 7. (Women) Substitutions shall not be allowed when the game is
  stopped in the last 59.9 seconds of the second half or any extra period for
  anything other than a timeout, a violation or a foul.

[Kelvin green]

NCAA womens rules are closer to the NBA/WNBA that does not allow subs (as it says) in violation foul or time out....

Think about this one, in the Men's and NFHS by the way... you call a delay of game warning and you blow the whistle.... substitute allowed. in NCAA women it is not...( at least in the last minute) This prevents a team from stopping the clock and benefitting from the act, or anyother time that we may have an issue...

Personally this is another rule the NBA has right- Should not be able to substitute when there is somesort of abnormal delay

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Can anyone shed any light on why NCAA-M and NCAA-W don't used the same wording for this rule?

Doesn't the clock stop on made baskets in NCAA-W in the last minute? No subs during that time.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

Doesn't the clock stop on made baskets in NCAA-W in the last minute? No subs during that time.

It stops for NCAA-M & NCAA-W. But that has no bearing on the question. Kelvin gave me the type of example I was looking for. (again, sorry for ending a sentence with a preposition)