Travel or not?

[buckrog64]

Try this one please: Happened last night in varsity boys game. A1 passes the ball ahead to A2 who is down court and has no one in front of him. He hasn't established control of the ball, he hasn't dribbled. In receiving the pass, he essentially tries to control the ball as it bounces (or juggles) from one hand to another while moving three or four steps, then dribbles and then went up for a layup and this was all in one motion, no stopping or restarting, etc., and the crowd wanted a travel. I let it go believing he didn't have control and the 2005 case book 4.44 references a similar play but probably not exact, where it refers to muffing and running and moving several steps before dribbling. In that case, it's not considered traveling. I know it was one of those 'better to have seen it plays...' Did I make the right call?

[deecee]

if you didnt think he had control then you made the right call

one cannot travel without control of the ball

[Rusty Gilbert]

what deecee said

[GoodwillRef]

No control, no travel. Don't make crowd pleaser calls, make the right calls.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by deecee

one cannot travel without control of the ball

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

No control, no travel.

With one exception. . .

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

With one exception. . .

Ah, the old control the ball on the floor set it down, stand up and touch it again travel.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

With one exception. . .

Please explain. I can't think of one, although I was racking my brain when I saw that post.

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Ah, the old control the ball on the floor set it down, stand up and touch it again travel.

I'm confused here. Wouldn't the "set it down" be the start of a dribble, and the "touch it again" be a continuation of the dribble? (-or end of the dribble if picked up?)

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

I'm confused here. Wouldn't the "set it down" be the start of a dribble, and the "touch it again" be a continuation of the dribble? (-or end of the dribble if picked up?)

See casebook play 4.44.5SitB--"It is also traveling if A1 puts the ball on the floor, then rises and is first to touch the ball".

That's what Scrappy and BZ were referring to.

[blindzebra]

4.44.5. situation B

[HawkeyeCubP]

Thank you.