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buckrog64 Wed Dec 20, 2006 01:57pm

Travel or not?
 
Try this one please: Happened last night in varsity boys game. A1 passes the ball ahead to A2 who is down court and has no one in front of him. He hasn't established control of the ball, he hasn't dribbled. In receiving the pass, he essentially tries to control the ball as it bounces (or juggles) from one hand to another while moving three or four steps, then dribbles and then went up for a layup and this was all in one motion, no stopping or restarting, etc., and the crowd wanted a travel. I let it go believing he didn't have control and the 2005 case book 4.44 references a similar play but probably not exact, where it refers to muffing and running and moving several steps before dribbling. In that case, it's not considered traveling. I know it was one of those 'better to have seen it plays...' Did I make the right call?

deecee Wed Dec 20, 2006 01:59pm

if you didnt think he had control then you made the right call

one cannot travel without control of the ball

Rusty Gilbert Wed Dec 20, 2006 02:20pm

what deecee said

GoodwillRef Wed Dec 20, 2006 02:27pm

No control, no travel. Don't make crowd pleaser calls, make the right calls.

Scrapper1 Wed Dec 20, 2006 03:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee
one cannot travel without control of the ball

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef
No control, no travel.

With one exception. . .

blindzebra Wed Dec 20, 2006 04:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1
With one exception. . .


Ah, the old control the ball on the floor set it down, stand up and touch it again travel.

HawkeyeCubP Wed Dec 20, 2006 06:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1
With one exception. . .

Please explain. I can't think of one, although I was racking my brain when I saw that post.
Quote:

Originally Posted by blindzebra
Ah, the old control the ball on the floor set it down, stand up and touch it again travel.

I'm confused here. Wouldn't the "set it down" be the start of a dribble, and the "touch it again" be a continuation of the dribble? (-or end of the dribble if picked up?)

Jurassic Referee Wed Dec 20, 2006 06:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP
I'm confused here. Wouldn't the "set it down" be the start of a dribble, and the "touch it again" be a continuation of the dribble? (-or end of the dribble if picked up?)

See casebook play 4.44.5SitB--<i>"It is also traveling if A1 puts the ball on the floor, then rises and is first to touch the ball".</i>

That's what Scrappy and BZ were referring to.

blindzebra Wed Dec 20, 2006 06:38pm

4.44.5. situation B

HawkeyeCubP Wed Dec 20, 2006 06:40pm

Thank you.


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