Disconcerting Thrower

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Me too........

Me three..... I had a situation in a JV game a couple weeks ago. Small crowd and the defender in the top spot was chattering loudly with somebody in the stands. It was a blatantly obvious attempt to disconcert the shooter. Next dead ball I talked to him. Next free throw, the guy in the stands starts up again, and the defender gives him the old finger-over-the-lips shush sign. Solved the problem without having to call anything.

[bigdogrunnin]

Me four . . . I am talking to players all the time during the game. "Get out of the lane," "don't reach," "hands off," etc. Saves my lungs, and keeps the game flowing. If I can talk a kid out of a penalty before it creates an advantage/disadvantage situation, I usually try to do that. Does it always work, no.

By the way, nice job handling your situation. Just right.

[mbyron]

Thanks, everyone. I like to talk to 'em too: next time I'll say something.

[Nevadaref]

I would NOT say anything to the player. It is not my job to coach him. I would merely have does as the OP did -- signal the delayed violation and penalize it if necessary.

Also, those of us who have been through this discussion before know that a technical foul can be considered for the repeated disconcertion attempts.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Also, those of us who have been through this discussion before know that a technical foul can be considered for the repeated disconcertion attempts.

Would I be correct in thinking that you'd call it an unsporting foul (10.3.7)? Or would it be delay (10.3.6)?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Would I be correct in thinking that you'd call it an unsporting foul (10.3.7)? Or would it be delay (10.3.6)?

http://forum.officiating.com/newrepl...reply&p=198071

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

From a POE on disconcertion in the 2001-02 rule book--"The committee emphasizes that disconcertion is a violation(9-1-5) and may result in a substitute throw. If persistent or deemed unsporting, the team/player may be penalized with a technical foul". They put "team" in there to deal with cases where the bench disconcerts.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I would NOT say anything to the player. It is not my job to coach him. I would merely have does as the OP did -- signal the delayed violation and penalize it if necessary.

Also, those of us who have been through this discussion before know that a technical foul can be considered for the repeated disconcertion attempts.

Generally, only when the disconcertion is being used as a tactic to force the shooter to make the shot.