Denied Entry

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

EDIT: Case play

Last edited by BktBallRef : Today at 07:19pm.

Now why would you do that when I posted the text of the case play at 07:14pm?

[Scrapper1]

Ok, here's a comment just to be nit-picky. Not saying I think we ought to make this distinction in real life, just throwin' it out there. . .

3-3-1c EXCEPTION: When a player is required by rule to be replaced prior to administering the free throw(s), then all other substitutes who have legally reported may also enter the game.

3.3.1 SITUATION B: A time-out is granted to Team A with play to resume by administration of a free throw. . .

Since we don't know how the game was to be resumed in the original situation, can we say for sure that the sub should've been allowed in?

[ranjo]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Ok, here's a comment just to be nit-picky. Not saying I think we ought to make this distinction in real life, just throwin' it out there. . .


Since we don't know how the game was to be resumed in the original situation, can we say for sure that the sub should've been allowed in?

As stated in my orginal posting, this occured following a time-out and not during a free throw. Thats why I denied entry.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by ranjo

As stated in my orginal posting, this occured following a time-out and not during a free throw.

It's not possible to have a time-out between free throws?

[deecee]

really not possible to have a TO between free throws?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

It's not possible to have a time-out between free throws?

Ranjo's point is that he gave you all the pertinent information in msg #1. As my JuCo supervisor likes to say "don't read into the question, just stick with the facts stated".

[Ignats75]

When I went to Officiating School one of the lessons we were taught was -when beibg asked to rule on something not specifically in the rules, ask yourself Why Not? IF you can't answer that question with a rule, allow it.

A long way of saying...use common sense.

If I'm allowing a sub for one team, I'll allow it for another.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

If I'm allowing a sub for one team, I'll allow it for another.

Exactly my thoughts. Generally speaking the restrictions on when a sub must report are there to keep the game moving along. As long as you have to allow one substitution in this situation, why wouldn't you allow other subs as well? It seems very much like the situation where you have to replace a fouled out player before shooting free throws. You allow any number of subs then, since you've already had to have one.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

When I went to Officiating School one of the lessons we were taught was -when beibg asked to rule on something not specifically in the rules, ask yourself Why Not? IF you can't answer that question with a rule, allow it.

A long way of saying...use common sense.

If I'm allowing a sub for one team, I'll allow it for another.

Sorry, this "common sense" solution just won't work, due to the following:

OBITUARY: THE SAD PASSING OF COMMON SENSE

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm, life isn't always fair, and maybe it was my fault.

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn) and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not children, are in charge). His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouth wash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.

Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job they failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer Panadol, sun lotion or a sticky plaster to a student, but could not inform the parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.

Common sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband; churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims.

Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar can sue you for assault.

Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.

Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason. He is survived by three stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, Someone Else is to Blame, and I'm A Victim. Not many attended - his funeral because so few realized he was gone. If you still remember him, pass this on. If not, join the majority and do nothing.

So, no more common sense. Back to the rule book.