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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 02:05am
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Continuous Motion

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"If an opponent fouls after a player has started a try for goal, he/she is permitted to complete the customary arm movement, and if pivoting or stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any activity while holding the ball. These privleges are granted only when the usual throwing motion has started before the foul occurs and before the ball is in flight."

Our 3 person crew had 3 on Saturday night. (2 in Frosh game and 1 in Varsity game)

Home Freshman boys Coach: "That can't be continous motion...there is no continous motion rule in High School."

Visitor Freshman boys Coach: "That's not continous motion...the ball hadn't left his hand yet."

Home Varsity Coach: "That's not continous motion...the player's foot was on the ground."
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 02:27am
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This is the stuff that makes officiating fun. It really makes you feel like we're part of a secret fraternity (you know, the kind that lets girls be members). We know all the secret rules that others don't have access to.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 08:43am
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I'll never understand why people think that every other NBA rule applies to high school ball, but continuous motion doesn't.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 08:47am
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Section XI—Field Goal Attempt
A field goal attempt is a player’s attempt
to shoot the ball into his basket for a
field goal.The act of shooting starts
when, in the official’s judgment, the
player has started his shooting motion
and continues until the shooting motion
ceases and he returns to a normal floor
position. It is not essential that the ball
leave the shooter’s hand. His arm(s)
might be held so that he cannot actually
make an attempt.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 09:01am
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I'll never understand why people think that every other NBA rule applies to high school ball, but continuous motion doesn't.
Good point.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 10:18am
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Some veteran members have posted, but I two questions for younger officials.

What is the difference between NBA, college and high school continuous motion?

What percentage (take a wag) of fouls that are called "on the floor" should actually be shooting fouls?
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 10:47am
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Some veteran members have posted, but I two questions for younger officials.


What percentage (take a wag) of fouls that are called "on the floor" should actually be shooting fouls?
I'll take the second question.....WAY TOO MANY! More times than not I see players that have "gathered" the ball and are starting up when they are fouled and the partner yells "on the floor"! Now, if you are paitent with your whistles, you can get the foul and the free throws or just wait and see if the ball goes in. Now, don't get me wrong, I would never let a player get hammered, but I think most of the "experienced" officials will know what I am talking about. Any move toward the basket (even if it is very slight) constitutes motion and should be called a shooting foul!
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 12:44pm
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What percentage (take a wag) of fouls that are called "on the floor" should actually be shooting fouls?
I'd say at least half.

I lean waaaay towards the side of awarding shots. If you even look at the basket and blink, I'm probably calling it continuous motion.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 03:56pm
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I'll never understand why people think that every other NBA rule applies to high school ball, but continuous motion doesn't.
That is a great point.

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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 04:02pm
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I'll never understand why people think that every other NBA rule applies to high school ball, but continuous motion doesn't.
Ditto. I have heard that so many times.

I snicker: "Over the back isn't a term in the Rule Book. Continious motion is"......
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 07:59pm
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I have NEVER heard a coach at any level (HS and college) that I work use the term "continuos motion" when it went against them. I have heard them ask "isn't that continuos motion?", when I don't count it. But when I do count it, the opposing coach NEVER uses the phrase "continuos motion".....

It's usually, how the hell can that count, he got hit on the floor! ~ Then I wink at them and say because I like that team better hahahaha
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