Team control foul

[j51969]

When was the team control foul instituted into high school ball?

[btaylor64]

This year.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

This year.

You didn't call those last year?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by j51969

When was the team control foul instituted into high school ball?

In 2005/06.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You didn't call those last year?

In defense of btaylor, the signal for the team control foul is new to the NFHS this year. Maybe that's what he was thinking of.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In defense of btaylor, the signal for the team control foul is new to the NFHS this year. Maybe that's what he was thinking of.

He also might have not worked in 2005, due to an injury and just started using the TC in Jan, 2006, which by some people might still be called "this year". It was instituted in the 2005-06 season, as Jurassic pointed out.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

This year.

Last year.....

[j51969]

The team control mechanic which looks exactly like a delayed lane viloation. When is the mechanic imployed? Is it at the time of the foul or when reporting to the table as with a hold, push etc..

[IREFU2]

It is used at the time of the foul, just like the player control foul. As far as reporting, I asked about this at our board meeting last night and I was told just to do the offensive signal at the table. This is just to clarify to them that there is not going to be any free throws.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

It is used at the time of the foul, just like the player control foul. As far as reporting, I asked about this at our board meeting last night and I was told just to do the offensive signal at the table. This is just to clarify to them that there is not going to be any free throws.

I must have been really late to our meeting b/c I missed that. So you are saying Steve told us to use the Player Control signal at the table when reporting a Team Control foul?

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I must have been really late to our meeting b/c I missed that. So you are saying Steve told us to use the Player Control signal at the table when reporting a Team Control foul?

No, I was talking to our beloved "t" and actually textbook asked the question and she I responded to him to use other signal at the table and she said it would be wise just to use the team control signal at the table. Call me and I will give you the details.

[j51969]

That sounds reasonable. I seen it done different ways. Some officials will bird dog the offender and then point in the opposite direction. NF says unauthorized mechcanics confuse players, coaches, and fans. I always thought that was pretty decisive. As long as your association is doing it the same way and debating about it openly it works for me. Thanks for the response.

[TimTaylor]

What we've been told - applies State-wide:

At point of foul: whistle with raised fist, team control signal, type of foul, point to designated spot for inbound
At table: team color, player number, team control signal, direction ball will go on inbound

Also OK to clarify briefly verbally in conjunction with signals, ie: white foul, number 4, team control, blue ball

[mbyron]

For Ohio, our state interpreter told us to disregard the new team-control signal, and to use only the player-control signal and point the direction the ball will go.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by mbyron

For Ohio, our state interpreter told us to disregard the new team-control signal, and to use only the player-control signal and point the direction the ball will go.

Yikes! That's very interesting. I can see where he's coming from, but seems like a little much. If I were a coach and knew the rules (ha, good one I know), he could cause you a lot of problems.

Does your interpreter also do the evaluations of those officials who are selected to go deep in the post season?