Team control foul

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Does your interpreter also do the evaluations of those officials who are selected to go deep in the post season?

I can't answer that question.

[stmaryrams]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Yikes! That's very interesting. I can see where he's coming from, but seems like a little much. If I were a coach and knew the rules (ha, good one I know), he could cause you a lot of problems.

Does your interpreter also do the evaluations of those officials who are selected to go deep in the post season?

Just went over this at our association meeting - also in Ohio I might add.

We are to show a foul (fist raised), Player control, and then point to a spot. Follow up by reporting the foul. They said they wanted this to clearly show there will be no free throws during a team control situation.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by mbyron

For Ohio, our state interpreter told us to disregard the new team-control signal, and to use only the player-control signal and point the direction the ball will go.

Oh My!!!!!

[Camron Rust]

I think the use of the PC signal is reasonable. Except for an airborne shot, the fouls are exactly the same in who it is on (a player on the team in control of the ball) and the penalty is the same (to the other team OOB nearest the foul). Don't know why they felt the need to create a new signal to indicate a foul that is only distinguished by which player has the ball.

[rainmaker]

Because 99% of fans, bench personnel, coaches and television announcers are going to be watching the ball, and if you call a foul and signal PC, and there wasn't a defender within 10 feet of the shooter, everyone is going to think you're crazy. That's why a TC signal is useful. It says, "I was watching off-ball, whether you were or not, and there are still rules that apply even away from the ball." Doesn't really seem that difficult to me!

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Because 99% of fans, bench personnel, coaches and television announcers are going to be watching the ball, and if you call a foul and signal PC, and there wasn't a defender within 10 feet of the shooter, everyone is going to think you're crazy. That's why a TC signal is useful. It says, "I was watching off-ball, whether you were or not, and there are still rules that apply even away from the ball." Doesn't really seem that difficult to me!

errrmmm....so these people who I infer (and you imply) are ignorant subhumans are gonna smile and nod their heads like a group of wise scholars when you give this particular signal and murmer "ahhh...good call, yes, good call after all..." when they see the TC foul signal?

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I think the punch is...well, stupid. And I won't be doing it.

(There, I said it.)

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

errrmmm....so these people who I infer (and you imply) are ignorant subhumans are gonna smile and nod their heads like a group of wise scholars when you give this particular signal and murmer "ahhh...good call, yes, good call after all..." when they see the TC foul signal?

( <-- we need a smiley stronger than this to imply huge amounts of sarcasm)

I think the punch is...well, stupid. And I won't be doing it.

(There, I said it.)

Of course I don't think one signal is going to make all these ignorant subhumans agree with my call. But I do think it can reduce the opportunities for the cretins on the bench to scream, once they understand that the signal means that the foul was away from the ball. My experience is that when I explain that the foul was away from the ball, they shut up, because they know they weren't looking there. This signal can help speed that explanation process.

So do you not use the punch in college, Dan? Do you signal all TC fouls with the hand behind the head?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Of course I don't think one signal is going to make all these ignorant subhumans agree with my call. But I do think it can reduce the opportunities for the cretins on the bench to scream, once they understand that the signal means that the foul was away from the ball. My experience is that when I explain that the foul was away from the ball, they shut up, because they know they weren't looking there. This signal can help speed that explanation process.

So do you not use the punch in college, Dan? Do you signal all TC fouls with the hand behind the head?

Punch might be a ncaa-w mechanic.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Punch might be a ncaa-w mechanic.

It is.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Because 99% of fans, bench personnel, coaches and television announcers are going to be watching the ball, and if you call a foul and signal PC, and there wasn't a defender within 10 feet of the shooter, everyone is going to think you're crazy. That's why a TC signal is useful. It says, "I was watching off-ball, whether you were or not, and there are still rules that apply even away from the ball." Doesn't really seem that difficult to me!

They already will think we're crazy when that whistle blows....until the number of the player that fouled is announced.

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

This year.

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I think you meant last year!