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Old Wed Nov 15, 2006, 11:08pm
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Ncaa Blarge?

Did any one on this net happen to watch the Montana-Wyoming game and see the Blarge call? 30 seconds to go, Montana down by 3 defending. From the radio play by play it was an apparent double foul with trail calling an offensive foul on the driving Wyoming player and lead calling a block. Wyoming ball at POI. Turned out to not be a game decider as Wyoming turned it over on next possession but it sure was a play you don't hear/see too often.

In college do the officials immediately go to what they see or do they delay their call waiting for the official for whom the play is coming toward to make his call?
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Old Wed Nov 15, 2006, 11:39pm
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They go to what they see, evidently without looking at their partner. Same thing happened in the Carolina-Winthrop game tonight.
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Old Thu Nov 16, 2006, 07:08am
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They go to what they see, evidently without looking at their partner. Same thing happened in the Carolina-Winthrop game tonight.
In NCAA-W there can't be a blarge, the two officials get together and make ONE call. I think the NCAA-M should consider doing the same.
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Old Thu Nov 16, 2006, 07:42am
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I think in practice, 98% of the time at the D1 level, they are aware of the 2nd whistle but the official whose primary the play is in generally will take it without much conversation other then "I got it".
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Old Thu Nov 16, 2006, 08:58am
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In NCAA-W there can't be a blarge, the two officials get together and make ONE call. I think the NCAA-M should consider doing the same.
I agree. This is one difference where the women's rule is better than the men's rule.
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Old Thu Nov 16, 2006, 09:10am
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The other way to simplify the matter is no preliminary signals. This is what gets everyone in trouble. If we simply just blow and wait to see who's area it is in and then yield to the official whos primary it is in, we would be okay. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Thu Nov 16, 2006, 09:16am
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The other way to simplify the matter is no preliminary signals. This is what gets everyone in trouble. If we simply just blow and wait to see who's area it is in and then yield to the official whos primary it is in, we would be okay. Just my 2 cents.
You mean, raise your fist and make eye contact? What a very basic thought!

Wonder why those that are supposed to be the best don't follow this basic fundamental?
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Old Thu Nov 16, 2006, 12:20pm
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I agree. This is one difference where the women's rule is better than the men's rule.
I would disagree that it is better. This does not advocate good communication or trying to prevent this from happening. And everyone sees that your partner disagrees with you. I am glad the NCAA Men's have not gone the route with Women's side on this.

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Old Thu Nov 16, 2006, 12:32pm
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I would disagree that it is better. This does not advocate good communication or trying to prevent this from happening. And everyone sees that your partner disagrees with you. I am glad the NCAA Men's have not gone the route with Women's side on this.
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Well nobody was talking about preventing it from happening. What the post is referring to is if it happens. Whether its mens or womens we all try to prevent it from happening. What if it happens? Is it really better to call a double foul and go POI? I don't think so. This is what I like about the women's perspective. Why not get together and talk about it and make a decision as to what is the right call.

Which looks worse? Calling a double foul and going POI or getting together and getting it right? Either way looks bad!!!! The screw up already happened nothing we can do to take it back. Now what we have to do is get the call right with out penalizing the wrong player.
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Old Thu Nov 16, 2006, 12:34pm
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I would disagree that it is better.
More power to ya. Nothing looks stupider than one guy going to the table with a charge and one guy going to the table with a block. You look like an idiot to the coaches.

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This does not advocate good communication or trying to prevent this from happening.
I don't care what it advocates. I care about which call is correct. It simply can't be both a block and a player control on the same play. Can't. It's one or the other. Either the defender was in legal position when the contact occured on the torso, or he wasn't. It simply can't be both. So how can it be "better" to call both?

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And everyone sees that your partner disagrees with you.
Yeah, but everyone sees that in the men's system, too; so that's not really relevant to which is better.
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