substitutions

[altus]

If a substitute is beckon onto the court, can they be replaced with another substitute before the ball becomes alive?

[mick]

Yes, as long as the substitute is not replaced by a player that had just left the floor.
The first substitute isn't required to play before he is replaced by another eligible substitute.

[altus]

Can you give me a reference for that situation? I don't disagree with you, but I would like to know where to find the reference.

[ChuckElias]

altus, FED 3-3-4 tells us that a player who has been withdrawn or directed to leave the game must remain out of the game until the next opportunity to sub after the clock has properly started.

There is no corresponding rule telling us that a player who enters the game must stay in the game until the next opportunity to sub. Therefore, that player is allowed to sub out even if the ball has not yet become live.

[mick]

Originally Posted by altus

Can you give me a reference for that situation? I don't disagree with you, but I would like to know where to find the reference.

I find no specific rule for your situation, but if you digest Rule 3-3 and Cases 3.3. -> you will find when substitution is not permitted such as after warning buzzer, re-entering. etc.

I cannot spoon-feed without a spoon.

[26 Year Gap]

[mick]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

[Mwanr1]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

altus, FED 3-3-4 tells us that a player who has been withdrawn or directed to leave the game must remain out of the game until the next opportunity to sub after the clock has properly started.

There is no corresponding rule telling us that a player who enters the game must stay in the game until the next opportunity to sub. Therefore, that player is allowed to sub out even if the ball has not yet become live.

It is generally easier to substitute out of the ball game than substitute into the ball game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by altus

Can you give me a reference for that situation? I don't disagree with you, but I would like to know where to find the reference.

3.3.3 Sit A

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mwanr1

It is generally easier to substitute out of the ball game than substitute into the ball game.

How so?

They happen at the same time, don't they?

[Mwanr1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

How so?

They happen at the same time, don't they?

I'm speaking of a player who has just been replaced, or directed to leave the game. Unless his/her team calls a time out and "buy" that player back in the game, that player must wait until the next opportunity to substitute. But generally, if a player really wants to leave the game, it is generally easier to leave than enter.

[mick]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

3.3.3 Sit A

Works for me, but in your case A6 actually got in.

[Kajun Ref N Texas]

Originally Posted by Mwanr1

I'm speaking of a player who has just been replaced, or directed to leave the game. Unless his/her team calls a time out and "buy" that player back in the game, that player must wait until the next opportunity to substitute. But generally, if a player really wants to leave the game, it is generally easier to leave than enter.

What provision in the rules, allows you to "buy" a non-injured replaced player back into the game with a timeout after the replacement but prior to the clocking starting?

[Grail]

Can't buy a non-injured player back into the game.

See Situation 11 in the current Fed Interpretations for your justification.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Kajun Ref N Texas

What provision in the rules, allows you to "buy" a non-injured replaced player back into the game with a timeout prior to the clocking starting after the replacement?

None. None.