substitutions

golfdesigner · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 25, 2002, 05:41am

Just the other night we had a small meeting with a bunch of officials, we got to talking about some rules for a local park league. To make a long story short, one official was pretty darn sure there was a rule in the NFHS rule book 'that if a team substituted 4 or more players at one time the opposing coach could call for a "match up" to allow defensive team to get matched up with their assignments'. So far a couple of us have not been able to come up with the "rule" in the NFHS books.
Any help in locating this one?

golfdesigner · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 25, 2002, 05:42am

sorry guys, the D A R N looks like something else, my apologies.

Marty Rogers · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 25, 2002, 08:21am

This opportunity has been in the rules for quite some time.
It's called a TIME OUT. If he wants to take the TIME OUT to do a match up, that's his right. Otherwise, play on!
However, if you are setting your own rules for a park league, you can institute any variations that you all want (and can agree on). I like the one where the coach gets permanently ejected from the league for the rest of the season if he gets his second T (in that season, not just one game).

Spaman_29 · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 25, 2002, 03:00pm

Actually this used to be a valid rule. It has not been nor has ever been retracted out of the rules book. It just dissapeared one year. I have never seen them actually change the rule. Would I allow it is another story.

RookieDude · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 25, 2002, 05:33pm

Will it make the game better if they get to match up?
Probably...you won't have a bunch of players running around trying to find an opponent to guard.
I'd just take a little extra time on the throw in to let them get a "partner". The coaches would appreciate the "game management" and you wouldn't look overbearing.

P.S. Golf dude...you can use the damn edit key without doing another post!

RD

bob jenkins · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 25, 2002, 07:09pm

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Originally posted by Spaman_29
Actually this used to be a valid rule. It has not been nor has ever been retracted out of the rules book. It just dissapeared one year. I have never seen them actually change the rule. Would I allow it is another story.

Right.

In the 1998-1999 book, 3-3-2 Question:"Following substitutions, should the official line up the players to aid them in locating opponents? Answer -- This shall be done at the request of a captain when three or more substitutes for the same team enter during an opportunity to substitute."

The Q&A did not appear in the 1999-2000 book. No explanation for their disappearance was given.

BOBBYMO · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 25, 2002, 09:17pm

I know that you said High School Federation but just to throw it out there.
This rule is in the NCAA rules book. Rule 3. Art.15 states... When 3 or more substitutes for the same team enter the game, an official may honor a request by the opposing team to aid it in locating the entering players.

Funny how this is being talked about in the Forum as I was just asked this same question by a Div-2 coach earlier this week. I thought she was crazy; but I will never doubt her again.

ChuckElias · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 25, 2002, 09:32pm

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Originally posted by BOBBYMO
but I will never doubt her again.

Bobby, unless you're married to her, I think you're going a little too far. Chances are, you'll still be right a lot more often than she will.

If a man speaks and there is no woman present, is he still wrong?

Chuck

Dan_ref · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 25, 2002, 10:02pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias

Quote:

Originally posted by BOBBYMO
but I will never doubt her again.

Bobby, unless you're married to her, I think you're going a little too far. Chances are, you'll still be right a lot more often than she will.

If a man speaks and there is no woman present, is he still wrong?

Chuck

Doesn't matter, there's still a list of stuff to get done...