C.E. Situation ??

[garote]

A friend brought this play up to me. I've tried looking a little but couldn't find it.

White 15 fouls green 15 on a rebound (push from behind). Confusion by the crew puts 15 white on the line for 1 & 1.

White makes both shots and green inbounds, while coming up the court, the crew realizes the mistake and stops play.

So what’s the correct call in this situation?

I know I'll catch hell for my opinion on this one, but here goes.

I would wipe the 2 pts off the board and put green on the line and start from there.

If green had scored on the possession we had after the erroneous 1 & 1, and then the crew or coach catches the error. I would say sorry (green) coach, botched it, and play on. (I would be more diplomatic, condensed for time and typing)

I could look my assignor in the eye with this fix and say, “I realize my solution may not have been text book, but was the right and fair thing to do”

[rainmaker]

Actually, I think you have done almost exactly what 2-10 recommends. The only mistake is letting the game flow from the green free throws. I think you have to let green shoot, and then give the ball back to green at the point the ball was when you stopped the game to correct the error. I realize that letting the game go from the 1-&-1 is "fairer" but the rule says POI. I'm not going to give you hell for it, though.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by garote

White 15 fouls green 15 on a rebound (push from behind). Confusion by the crew puts 15 white on the line for 1 & 1.

White makes both shots and green inbounds, while coming up the court, the crew realizes the mistake and stops play.

So what’s the correct call in this situation?

I know I'll catch hell for my opinion on this one, but here goes.

I would wipe the 2 pts off the board and put green on the line and start from there.

Close. Cancel white's FT's. Put green 15 on the line with nobody lined up for the 1-1. After the first missed or second FT, go back to the POI where the error was discovered.

NFHS rules 2-10-1(c), 2-10-2, 2-10-4,5&6 .

[Nevadaref]

Unfortunately, I believe that allowing the opponent to shoot FTs constitutes a change of team possession since the error was made, so even though you have a correctable error that involves the awarding of merited FTs, you can't continue from there. You have to return the ball to Green for throw-in nearest where they had control when the game was stopped and the error recognized.

Also, if Green had scored on that possession, but the error was recognized prior to the throw-in, then it is still within the correctable timeframe.

[Kajun Ref N Texas]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Unfortunately, I believe that allowing the opponent to shoot FTs constitutes a change of team possession since the error was made, so even though you have a correctable error that involves the awarding of merited FTs, you can't continue from there. You have to return the ball to Green for throw-in nearest where they had control when the game was stopped and the error recognized.

Interesting question since, "the free throw and the activity during it...shall be canceled" (2-10-4). So is the change in possession as written in 10-2-6 canceled?

Any authoritative guidance?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Kajun Ref N Texas

Interesting question since, "the free throw and the activity during it...shall be canceled" (2-10-4). So is the change in possession as written in 10-2-6 canceled?

Any authoritative guidance?

No. The rebound is after the FT ends....not during it.

What would be canceled is a personal foul or violation committed prior to the ending of the FT.

[Kajun Ref N Texas]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No. The rebound is after the FT ends....not during it.

What would be canceled is a personal foul or violation committed prior to the ending of the FT.

Cameron,

I think you missed Nevada's point. The only change in possession in the original sitch is when White attempts the FTs.

My point is, if that is the only change in possession and we are canceling the FT and the activity during it, do we cancel the change in possession and thereby resume play after the FTs.