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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 01:03am
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That is precisely the policy that a court (in Winnipeg, Can.) deemed discriminatory.

I can only imagine the mess that will develop if it stands.
Sheez, Camron, relax! People didn't think the country would survive women voting, and it's made it 80 years so far. I doubt one legal ruling that you don't agree with in Winnipeg will be the end of life as we know it...
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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 11:26am
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Sheez, Camron, relax! People didn't think the country would survive women voting, and it's made it 80 years so far. I doubt one legal ruling that you don't agree with in Winnipeg will be the end of life as we know it...
Juulie, I think you misunderstand me. I think this ruling (as it stands) can in no way be beneficial to women's sports or women in general. If the gender designations for sports teams is eliminated, I think that opportunities for women will suffer as men would also be allowed on women's teams.

Given the genetic differences, do you really think that the very best women could compete head-to-head against even the 2nd tier of men in physical sports where speed, height, and/or strength are critical elements.

I'm all for promoting womens sports and opportunities for women. In fact, I ran a church league for several years where I made great efforts in to ensure that the women had the same opportunities to play as the men....putting more effort into that than running the men's events. I had a lot of feedback from several of the women who were appreciative of my efforts...because no one else in my position before me had even tried to establish sports for the women.
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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 11:31am
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Juulie, I think you misunderstand me. I think this ruling (as it stands) can in no way be beneficial to women's sports or women in general. If the gender designations for sports teams is eliminated, I think that opportunities for women will suffer as men would also be allowed on women's teams.

Given the genetic differences, do you really think that the very best women could compete head-to-head against even the 2nd tier of men in physical sports where speed, height, and/or strength are critical elements.

I'm all for promoting womens sports and opportunities for women. In fact, I ran a church league for several years where I made great efforts in to ensure that the women had the same opportunities to play as the men....putting more effort into that than running the men's events. I had a lot of feedback from several of the women who were appreciative of my efforts...because no one else in my position before me had even tried to establish sports for the women.
Camron, I don't think you were being anti-women's lib or anything so politically incorrect. You are nothing if not PC. I just think that to say this would develop into a mess is over-reacting. Mess doesn't need the help of some judge in Winnipeg. It can happen all by itself.
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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 11:45am
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People didn't think the country would survive women voting, and it's made it 80 years so far.
The jury is still out on that one imo.
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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 12:04pm
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The jury is still out on that one imo.
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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 12:40pm
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Wow, this sort of ruling always opens a huge can of worms. They are aimed at "leveling the playing field" but it seems to me they do the opposite. The problem I see with letting girls on boys teams is that it is supposed to be about equality, but it seldom is. I remember seeing something last year or so about some hockey players that wanted to play field hockey with the girls. Parents raised holy hedoublhockeysticks (I love typing that btw). I completely understand and support girls wanting the same opportunties as boys to play, but you can't have it all. If it is going to be all about equality,we need to get rid of sex-specific teams totally and the best players play. Allowing some players on and some not is not equality. Of course this is just my view and if I knew all the answers, I'd be a much wealthier person.
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