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Old Mon Jul 10, 2006, 08:20am
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Arrow Question

Here's the situation. Opening tip, Red vs. Blue. Neither team actually controls the tip, but Red definitely tips the ball out of bounds. No question that Blue gets the ball for a throw-in. How do we set the arrow?

Most have said that Blue has the ball, so the arrow should point to Red. Evaluator says that Red caused the ball to go out, thus they had control, set the arrow to Blue.

What's the correct call?
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Old Mon Jul 10, 2006, 08:22am
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Here's the situation. Opening tip, Red vs. Blue. Neither team actually controls the tip, but Red definitely tips the ball out of bounds. No question that Blue gets the ball for a throw-in. How do we set the arrow?

Most have said that Blue has the ball, so the arrow should point to Red. Evaluator says that Red caused the ball to go out, thus they had control, set the arrow to Blue.

What's the correct call?
The evaluator is wrong, or s/he saw red control the ball before it went out of bounds. The arrow is set when a team controls the ball, or it's at the disposal of the inbounder (or, in the rare case, at the disposal of the free-thrower following a common foul).
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It doesn't matter which of the two jumpers touches the ball first. The team that does not gain control of the first live ball on the court will be the team entitled to the next alternated possession.

In your case, the red jumper tipped the ball out of bounds. Therefore, blue team gained control of the live ball for a throw-in and the arrow should have pointed towards blue team's basket.
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Elassar,

You're in Sardinia, Italy? Congrats on that little soccer tournament thingy.
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Elassar,

You're in Sardinia, Italy? Congrats on that little soccer tournament thingy.
I am, thank you

But, as you can guess, I'm waiting for the big tournament in Japan starting in forty days!
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Old Mon Jul 10, 2006, 10:28am
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But, as you can guess, I'm waiting for the big tournament in Japan starting in forty days!
Um, I can't guess. What's bigger than the World Cup?
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Old Mon Jul 10, 2006, 10:31am
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Um, I can't guess. What's bigger than the World Cup?
The Japanese World Series?
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Um, I can't guess. What's bigger than the World Cup?
FIBA World Championship 2006!!

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Um, I can't guess. What's bigger than the World Cup?
Ron Jeremy's Cup?
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Old Mon Jul 10, 2006, 07:29pm
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It doesn't matter which of the two jumpers touches the ball first. The team that does not gain control of the first live ball on the court will be the team entitled to the next alternated possession.

In your case, the red jumper tipped the ball out of bounds. Therefore, blue team gained control of the live ball for a throw-in and the arrow should have pointed towards RED team's basket.
I'm sure that's what you meant.
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Old Tue Jul 11, 2006, 04:42am
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I'm sure that's what you meant.
LOL, I see that overseas a team's basket is "the one into which its players try to throw or tap the ball", while, according to FIBA 1.2, "The basket that is attacked by a team is the opponents' basket and the basket which is defended by a team is the team's own basket."

I didn't know that... weird, though
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Old Tue Jul 11, 2006, 05:52pm
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Well that explains it. I didn't know that FIBA defined it that way.
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