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Had a JV X-mas tournament last week and a ap arrow situation came up, which I need know if I handle it right.
My partner called a jump ball and B1 fouled A1 during the dead ball. My partner called a T on B1. The arrow is pointing towards B team. Player from team A shoots the two technicals and got the throw in at half court. I left the arrow pointing towards team B. I thought that the technical did not effect the arrow in this play. The only thing I could find to support this was in the case book 6.3.1b. So now I need some advise from someone with more experience then me. I'm not real sure I got this right? Happy New Year!! |
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You got it right, Dibbs. The AP arrow does not change until either (during an AP throw-in):
1) the team entitled to the throw-in completes the throw-in, OR 2) the team entitled to the throw-in commits a throw-in violation. In your situation, neither of those two things happened, b/c the technical foul occurred prior to administering the AP throw-in. Therefore, the arrow stays where it was. Good job. Chuck |
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When you don't know.
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What Chuck said. When you don't know who gets the ball to resume play, use the arrow. In your play, you knew who was supposed to throw in the ball after the "T", ...thus, no need to use the arrow. Good call. mick |
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Arrow only changes......
when you put the ball at the disposal of the team that had the arrow during a AP situation. This is not one of them because a Technical Foul was called that nullified you even using the AP Procedure in the first place. AP Procedure only applys when you put the ball in play, not before, like when you called the Jump Ball.
Hope that helps. Peace
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Re: Arrow only changes......
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Re: Re: Arrow only changes......
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Re: Re: Re: Arrow only changes......
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Violations and Fouls are not that much different.
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Assume a jump ball is called, and the arrow favors A. What violation could A commit that would not cause them to lose the arrow? I can't think of any off of the top of my head.
6-3-4: Arrow reversed when the throw-in team violates. 6-3-5: AP throw-in opportunity lost only if throw-in team violates. 9-2: All of the throw-in violations are live ball situations. On a related note, I timed a varsity girls' game tonight, and there were about 20 jump balls called. One official, however, used one hand up to stop the clock, then used the two thumbs signal. Anyone else seen this?
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Yes! I started doing this when I would immediately go up with two thumbs while my partner is signaling for a foul. Now, I kill the clock with the open hand up and take a quick look at my partner to make sure he/she does not have a foul then go up with two thumbs.
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