New POE for next year?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

OK so we've had the "No Jersey Popping Allowed" POE this year. Can I make a suggestion that next years' POE's include "No Screaming After a Dunk/Blocked Shot/Rebound/Made FG" - I'll call it the "Joakim Noah - AAAAAAHHHHH! Rule".

That kid is exceptionally talented, but he screams after every single play he makes on the floor!!!!

It drives me crazy....it makes me want to scream AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!

Who's with me?

Already covered in FED ball imo.....

From the 2003-04 POE's-- "Further, the committee is concerned with the trend towards 'playing to the crowd', attempting to increase attention and praise for their own individual accomplishments rather than towards the game itself, and team achievements".

You can use that to take care of bidness if you feel that there's a problem there. Probably best to use a quiet "cut that sh!t out" first imo.

NCAA? You do what your supervisors tell you to do- unless you're one of the "Officiating Gods".

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Already covered in FED ball imo.....

From the 2003-04 POE's-- "Further, the committee is concerned with the trend towards 'playing to the crowd', attempting to increase attention and praise for their own individual accomplishments rather than towards the game itself, and team achievements".

You can use that to take care of bidness if you feel that there's a problem there. Probably best to use a quiet "cut that sh!t out" first imo.

NCAA? You do what your supervisors tell you to do- unless you're one of the "Officiating Gods".

WHAT??!!

You say sh!t to the little sh1ts??!!!

That's just wrong...maybe I'll start a new poll on this, waddya think?

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think there are already rules in place

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Already covered in FED ball imo.....

You're both right obviously. It's covered in the rules. But so is traveling, and somehow, that ends up being a point of emphasis, right? Palming is covered in the rules, but that was a POE this year in NCAA.

The fact that it's covered in the rules has nothing to do with whether or not a POE is issued. The POE is for rules that are not being enforced correctly or consistently. This might fall into that category.

[jeffpea]

Chuck, you took the words right out of my mouth. ALL the POE's are in the rules. They're called Points of Emphasis - not "new rules".

If I could figure out how to cut and paste - I'd copy the picture from the www.espn.com homepage right now.....there he is in all of his screaming glory!

[Time2Ref]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

Chuck, you took the words right out of my mouth. ALL the POE's are in the rules. They're called Points of Emphasis - not "new rules".

If I could figure out how to cut and paste - I'd copy the picture from the www.espn.com homepage right now.....there he is in all of his screaming glory!

[jeffpea]

time2ref - what you posted was different from I saw on the main page (they may have removed it). It was classic Noah - on his way back to the floor after a dunk - screaming while flexing....

Thanks for the help though.

[Time2Ref]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

time2ref - what you posted was different from I saw on the main page (they may have removed it). It was classic Noah - on his way back to the floor after a dunk - screaming while flexing....

Thanks for the help though.

Yeah, I thought he looked a little mild there. How about these????









The old Monty Python movie "In Search of the Holy Grail"
.......LOL.......LOL......LOL......GREAT MOVIE..............
I loved the part about the Black Knight "Come over here you coward.....I'll bite your ankle".

[tomegun]

Noah had the bench plastered to his butt last year and now he is emerging as one of the stars in the tournament. Is all this suppose to occur without emotion? Face it, sports are often emotional.

If this emotion spills over into taunting, I think it should be punished accordingly.

BTW, I don't know if I ever completed a (traditional) three-point play without giving a little yell.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by Time2Ref

"Come over here you coward.....I'll bite your ankle".

What are you going to do? Bleed on me?

Ooooh! I'll do you for that!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

You're both right obviously. It's covered in the rules. But so is traveling, and somehow, that ends up being a point of emphasis, right? Palming is covered in the rules, but that was a POE this year in NCAA.

The fact that it's covered in the rules has nothing to do with whether or not a POE is issued. The POE is for rules that are not being enforced correctly or consistently. This might fall into that category.

I realize that, but I do not see this as a big problem or something that has to be pointed out so that officials take action. Now the POE for taking out the jersey and those situations needed to be stated because it was something new in the past few years. I do not see that much dunking and seeing players yelling at the top of the lungs.

Peace

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I realize that, but I do not see this as a big problem or something that has to be pointed out so that officials take action. Now the POE for taking out the jersey and those situations needed to be stated because it was something new in the past few years. I do not see that much dunking and seeing players yelling at the top of the lungs.

Peace

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Rut,
Gotta agree and disagree with you. I don't see it as a big problem -- yet, but I think if it became a POE now (to quote the immortal Barney Fife) it would, "Nip it in the bud!" I also think they need to address players yelling at the shooter when going up for the shot after being beaten on a breakaway, etc. It's playground nonsense that needs to be stopped.

[Oz Referee]

Originally Posted by refnrev

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I also think they need to address players yelling at the shooter when going up for the shot after being beaten on a breakaway, etc. It's playground nonsense that needs to be stopped.

Couldn't agree with you more. This is my pet hate when refereeing. As my high school coach used to say - players that do this are too dumb/lazy/bad to be able to play real defense.

Thankfully this was put into the FIBA POE in 2004. It instructs referees to issue a warning if they determine that it had no effect on the shooter - subsequent occurances are to be called a tech foul.

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I realize that, but I do not see this as a big problem or something that has to be pointed out so that officials take action. Now the POE for taking out the jersey and those situations needed to be stated because it was something new in the past few years. I do not see that much dunking and seeing players yelling at the top of the lungs.

Peace

JRut - watch this weekend; I guarantee you that you'll count at least six post-dunk screams by players this weekend. Hell, Noah even does it when the opponent calls a timeout after the Gators have gone on a 10-0 run (and he never enen dunked during that stretch!)