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Re: Re: Thanks for the input....
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Nobody has given me a rules reference as to why the official was wrong for not reversing the AP Arrow. MTD, Sr.
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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn. Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn. Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials Ohio High School Athletic Association Toledo, Ohio |
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That is because they can't.
You got it right, Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. in your first post when you sited NFHS rule 9.2.11. You stated correctly: "Team A's original AP throw-in never ended so it does not lose the AP Arrow." You didn't reference the rule covering that. That rule is: 6.4.4...The direction of the possesion arrow is reversed immediately after an alternating possesion throw-in ends or when the throw-in team violates. (And as I learned in the other post): 4.42.5...The throw-in ends when the passed ball touches, or is touched by, an inbounds player other than the thrower. Therefore, as you stated, the AP throw-in never ended. (ball was never passed. And never touched an inbounds player) Instead the violation occured.(not by the throw-in team) And as Kajun Ref N Texas correctly stated "So.... it is a violation.... and the ball is given back to the same team at the same place.....but because of the violation... by definition this is not an AP throw-in anymore." (And that violation is addressed at the bottom of 9.2.): Penalty: (Section 2) The ball becomes dead when the violation or technical foul occurs. Following a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponets for a throw-in at the original throw-in spot. Team B violated. The penalty for the violation was that Team A was AWARDED a throw-in, not an AP throw-in. (Yes, they the do receive the warning as stated in 9.2.11, Penalties: (Art.11) 1. The first violation....) No change of AP arrow. [Edited by Time2Ref on Feb 3rd, 2006 at 07:17 AM] |
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