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How about the non-call in the first half when the NC player (Noel?) got hit in the eye and the ball came loose? I know NC recovered and it had little bearing on the game, but smacking someone in the face is hardly incidental contact. I was surprised this wasn't called, since the player still had the ball. Usually you see this type of thing missed after the player gets rid of the ball.
I guess they figured the Illinois player hit the ball. Either that or the face is part of ball. |
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Let me add that I don't see that happening very much. In fact, I'm not sure anyone can ever point to ONE CALL from an entire game, to say that it was the biggest factor in the outcome. Let's get real. More important than missed baskets, turnovers, poor defense, etc.? Like some say, don't get into a position where one call can matter, then you need not worry about it. |
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I think he is serious, and I question whether you can be serious. A smack to the face/ eyes is not incidental contact. I think the referees just missed it/ didn't see it. Also, I don't think it caused him to lose the ball. In my view he was passing it back out to the point and after he released it he got smacked. I believe this is why the officials missed it.
When it comes to contact with the face, most of the time it is not incidental. I don't think Brown did it intentionally and was trying to make a play for the steal he just happened to miss the ball entirely and whacked Noel across the grill. We have an official in our chapter who is a former NBA official. He once told me that if a player grabs his face or eyes, 99% of the time he got fouled, because, although players will fake some injuries, they never fake getting poked in the eye or smacked across the nose. Don't confuse the terms incidental with accidental. It was an accident to hit him across the face which still equals a foul if the officials see it. It was definately not incidental contact. I would hope that if you did see that in your game you would call it. It also tells me that the officials missed how it happened b/c they stopped the game immediately when they realized he was hurt to check on him. |
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Wasn't the 5th foul the one he got for the forearm shiver he gave May in the post? If so, the replay showed clearly there was nobody else around.
The fourth fouth - the second of two quick back-to-back ones early in the half - when they caught him hacking a guy driving to the hoop - on THAT one, I thought there was another defender in the lane they could have called a block on before Augustine reached in. Anyway, last night should hold up as a good example for those who preach the "keep the good players in the game" philosophy. The three officials working the biggest game of the year didn't think twice about keeping the Big Ten Tournament MVP on the bench 90% of the time. [Edited by canuckrefguy on Apr 5th, 2005 at 12:22 PM]
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Someone getting smacked in the face is contact, right? Contact occurs all the time without a whistle, right? IMO this contact in this game wasn't something to call. I would like to see it again and maybe I would change my mind but from what I remember it was just one of those plays where someone (accidentally ) gets hit in the face. Unless I see the play again, I'm serious.
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