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Old Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:37pm
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TJ Halliday (IAABO Director of Learning and Development and a member of the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee) in his recent online Zoom Faking Being Fouled clinic (where I got the One In A Million Play screen grab) admitted such right from the get go, that many states, both IAABO, and non-IAABO, are handing flopping situations very differently from the NFHS "best practices" outline.
He said they might be handling it differently than the NF, not the "best practices" if I recall. But in the NF Casebook has a very specific comment to what to do. It sounds like either someone decided that was not enough or there is not the connection to what was already posted. Either way, this is typical of the NF which has been frustrating for years.

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But in the NF Casebook has a very specific comment to what to do. It sounds like either someone decided that was not enough or there is not the connection to what was already posted.


This is exactly how the NFHS Faking Being Fouled Best Practices wants this situation handled:

Defensive player, B1, attempting to “draw a charge” goes to the floor with no or
incidental contact. This is described in the rules as overtly embellishing the impact of
incidental contact on block/charge plays. In this play, the team faking being fouled is on
defense and thus the offended team (Team A) has team control. (4-49-1a)

Adjudication: When does the official blow the whistle and signal for both the first and
subsequent infractions?
- The official should signal faking being fouled (New #15) as soon as the official
identifies behavior that, in their opinion, rises to the level of faking being fouled.
The official should withhold the whistle so as not to penalize the offensive team
for actions of the defense.

First Infraction – The team that is faking being fouled is on defense. The
official will display the faking being foul signal (New #15) when the official
recognizes the behavior but will withhold the whistle until: (a) Team A
scores – repeated attempts at the basket are allowed; OR (b) Team B
gains control of the ball. Once Team A scores OR Team B gains control,
the official will sound the whistle, report the warning to the table, and
notify the head coach.
- Successful Try – The basket will count. Team B will be awarded
the ball on the endline and may move along the endline as after
any successful try. (7-5-7)
- Team B Gains Control – Team B is awarded a throw-in from the
spot out of bounds closest to where they gained control. (7-5-3b)

2nd/Subsequent Infraction – The same procedures as above apply.
- Successful Try – The basket will count. A team technical foul is
charged to Team B. Team A will shoot two free throws and get the
ball for a division line throw-in opposite the scorer’s table. (10-2-
1h, 10-2 PENALTY)
- Team B Gains Control – A team technical foul is charged to Team
B. Team A will shoot two free throws and get the ball for a
division line throw-in opposite the scorer’s table. (10-2-1h, 10-2
PENALTY)
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Old Mon Nov 18, 2024, 02:17pm
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He said they might be handling it differently than the NF, not the "best practices" if I recall.
Aren't the NF and NFHS Faking Being Fouled Best Practices one in the same (with the exception of the One In A Million Play)?
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Aren't the NF and NFHS Faking Being Fouled Best Practices one in the same (with the exception of the One In A Million Play)?
Why did the NF make several modifications to the states after they posted this document? I am just telling you what I know. My state waited on the NF to give more information and when they did, they came to the conclusion that they would not go to the AP arrow on the play I described. Wait until the ball is controlled.

Even in our IHSA video, they talked about us giving the "flop" signal at least 2 times and TJ in the IAABO video said to do it just once. Seems like there is a lot of miscommunication over something so simple. BTW, in college, we are encouraged to give the signal more than once. Again, where did this rule come from again?

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... this is typical of the NF which has been frustrating for years.
Amen.
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