Offensive foul/flop/Incidental Contact

[Coach Bill]

NCAA Men's Basketball:



Offensive foul was the call. Correct?

[JRutledge]

I have no issues with the call. The player just ran into him. Pretty big boy as well. Why is he running right at him in the first place?

Peace

[Raymond]

My only issue is the Center should have put a whistle on it instead of my good friend in the Lead.

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[MechanicGuy]

By rule, it's an offensive foul. But it's a terrible precedent to set for the game and essentially a way for the defense to abuse the rule. Derek Fisher used to do this all over the court on unsuspecting offensive players just switching ends.

The offensive player isn't attempting to post up, set a screen, cut to the basket etc...he's just switching ends. The defender is also looking to hit the floor. I hate it.

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

By rule, it's an offensive foul. But it's a terrible precedent to set for the game and essentially a way for the defense to abuse the rule. Derek Fisher used to do this all over the court on unsuspecting offensive players just switching ends.

The offensive player isn't attempting to post up, set a screen, cut to the basket etc...he's just switching ends. The defender is also looking to hit the floor. I hate it.

I don't like it either. Similar, to the guy that turned to run up court and celebrated and accidentally punched the guy. There was no foul on that play.

So, why a foul on this play? What is the difference?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

I don't like it either. Similar, to the guy that turned to run up court and celebrated and accidentally punched the guy. There was no foul on that play.

So, why a foul on this play? What is the difference?

Those are two very different things. All contact is not a foul for one. And if you are going to call a Flagrant or Intentional Foul on that, there has to be more than they run into each other accidentally. That happens all the time.

This play is a live ball with a player clearly standing in front of him and he does nothing to avoid him. He runs him over. That is a very different play.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

I don't like it either. Similar, to the guy that turned to run up court and celebrated and accidentally punched the guy. There was no foul on that play.

So, why a foul on this play? What is the difference?

Because you can't rule a common foul on a monitor review unless there was a whistle for some sort of foul in the first place. Their only choices were F1 or F2, and the play did not meet the criteria for either.

Every player being entitled to their spot is a common concept in basketball. The offensive player had time and distance to avoid contact and didn't in this play. He also didn't stop upon contact, he extended his arms further in knocking down the opponent.

[bob jenkins]

Heck -- I've called this in a HS game. Delaying the offensive player from getting to his spot is valid defense.