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Old Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:59pm
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Put me in the game management camp. It wasn't possible in this case, because the player's signal was obvious to everyone. But if I'm standing next to the coach and he/she asks for the time-out, I'm definitely saying, "You don't have any." If they really want it and ask again, then I'll grant it.
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Old Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:57pm
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Put me in the game management camp. It wasn't possible in this case, because the player's signal was obvious to everyone. But if I'm standing next to the coach and he/she asks for the time-out, I'm definitely saying, "You don't have any." If they really want it and ask again, then I'll grant it.
The problem is that some people think it's "good game management" to *always* ignore the first request when a team is out of TOs. Or to play this reasoning to *every* other situation. And, some think it's *always* "the rule is the rule and must be enforced, period."

The truth is in between -- and exactly where in-between will differ based on the official, the area, and the specific game.
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Old Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:02pm
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The truth is in between -- and exactly where in-between will differ based on the official, the area, and the specific game.
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Old Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:10pm
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The truth is in between -- and exactly where in-between will differ based on the official, the area, and the specific game.
I've had many, many partners over the years tell me, "No more timeouts for ...".

In fact, I always do the same thing myself.

While I'm fairly certain that most are telling me this to let me know that another timeout will lead to a technical foul (my purpose for telling a partner), I get the sneaking suspicion that a few are telling me this to let me know that I may want to be prepared to "ignore" or "question" such requests.
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Old Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:52pm
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"You don't have any."
Didn't an official just say something very similar a few moments earlier in the game?

2-7-12: Officials’ General Duties: The officials must conduct the game in accordance with the rules. This includes: Notifying the head coach when a team is granted its final allowable time-out.
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Old Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:58pm
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I have not yet encountered that situation in my games. If I do, I will tell the coach when his team has used its final timeout. If there is then another request from that team, I will grant it, but at the cost of a technical foul.
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Old Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:09pm
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I have not yet encountered that situation in my games. If I do, I will tell the coach when his team has used its final timeout. If there is then another request from that team, I will grant it, but at the cost of a technical foul.
As bob jenkins alluded to earlier, when in Rome ...
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Old Thu Nov 24, 2022, 05:29am
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I have not yet encountered that situation in my games. If I do, I will tell the coach when his team has used its final timeout. If there is then another request from that team, I will grant it, but at the cost of a technical foul.
You have never had a game in which a team used all of its time-outs and you had to inform the HC that they were now out? Given how long you have been on this forum, I cannot believe that.
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Old Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:37am
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I have not encountered a situation where a team used a timeout it did not have.
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Old Sun Nov 27, 2022, 02:26pm
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I have not encountered a situation where a team used a timeout it did not have.

Officiate long enough and you eventually will. It is rare but it happens.

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