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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 10:37am
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Why not? A bad toss is a bad way to start the game.

If the referee is not confident in his toss, he can let either umpire handle it. That might avoid the need to call back tosses in the first place.
Actually the D3 National Coordinator insisted that the everyone adhere to their positions as there were many people whom he didn't know when he watched them in person or on film. This way he could tell who was whom based on the information he received from that coordinator.
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Interesting. This means that the Referee assigned in Arbiter always tossed the ball during the D3 National Tournament. Hopefully all the tosses went off without any hitches.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 11:43am
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Interesting. This means that the Referee assigned in Arbiter always tossed the ball during the D3 National Tournament. Hopefully all the tosses went off without any hitches.
Not necessarily. Jim Haney's comments were mostly about who is assigned the games during the season and he does not know everyone. I am sure if he assigned a game in the D3 tournament, he is likely aware of who he assigned on some level. And this was said a few years ago. I believe he has access to more information, But if you are U2 and you toss the ball, then he might think the R is the person that tossed the ball.

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I don't know why MultipleSports brought this up, then. Another digression within a digression.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 11:55am
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... if you are U2 and you toss the ball, then he might think the R is the person that tossed the ball.
Is college like high school, where the referee, and only the referee, puts the ball at the disposal of the inbounder to start the second, third, and fourth periods (or the second half for college men)?

Also, based on the context in the above posts, I'm assuming that in college, like in high school, the referee has the option of assigning the jump ball toss to one of the umpire(s).
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 12:59pm
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Is college like high school, where the referee, and only the referee, puts the ball at the disposal of the inbounder to start the second, third, and fourth periods (or the second half for college men)?

Also, based on the context in the above posts, I'm assuming that in college, like in high school, the referee has the option of assigning the jump ball toss to one of the umpire(s).
That's not an absolute in college or HS.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 01:03pm
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That's not an absolute in ... HS.
NFHS 2-5-2: The referee must: Administer the alternating-possession throw-in to start the second, third and fourth quarters.

Raymond may be referring to something less than usual, like technical foul free throws, and the ball at the division line, to start a period (which would not be an alternating possession throwin), thus not an absolute?
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NFHS 2-5-2: The referee must: Administer the alternating-possession throw-in to start the second, third and fourth quarters.

Raymond may be referring to something less than usual, like technical foul free throws, and the ball at the division line, to start a period (which would not be an alternating possession throwin), thus not an absolute?
I thought we broke you of the habit of speaking for others.

I've done plenty of games in college and HS where the referee did not administer throw-ins at the beginning of periods.
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