End of quarter - "All related activity"

[Raymond]

When a player fouls out isn't there a process in place that needs to be adhered to before any other actions ensue, such as commencing an intermission or time out?

If there is a technical foul prior, is the whole notification and substitution process ignored if it is the end of a quarter?

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

When a player fouls out isn't there a process in place that needs to be adhered to before any other actions ensue, such as commencing an intermission or time out?

Yes there is because said player needs their identity changed from a player to bench personnel as soon as possible (for indirect technical foul purposes), and this is an important "activity".

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Yes there is because said player needs their identity changed from a player to bench personnel as soon as possible (for indirect technical foul purposes), and this important "activity" can take up to fifteen seconds.

I believe that you are confusing the replacement interval with the notification process. The player immediately becomes bench personnel upon the notification of the coach that the individual has committed a disqualifying foul (fifth total, two technical, or one flagrant). Now it may take up to fifteen seconds for a new player to report and enter the contest, but that doesn’t have anything to do with the status of the disqualified individual.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I believe that you are confusing the replacement interval with the notification process. The player immediately becomes bench personnel upon the notification of the coach that the individual has committed a disqualifying foul (fifth total, two technical, or one flagrant).

Agree (changed it).

Did it to point out the official may be standing there for up to fifteen seconds taking the slings and arrows of unsporting conduct.

Can we wait until after the intermission to beckon the substitute? If one believes we can't, has the period really ended before the substitute is beckoned?

I know that we can't grant a timeout request until the substitute is beckoned.

5.8.3 SITUATION C: A1 fouls B2. The scorer notifies the nearest official that this is A1’s fifth foul. The official notifies the coach of Team A of the disqualification. The official then instructs the timer to begin the 15-second replacement period. The official then notifies A1. After 10 seconds have elapsed: (a) the captain of Team A; or (b) the captain of Team B requests a time-out. RULING: In (a) and (b), the time-out request is denied as disqualified A1 must be replaced prior to any time-out being granted to either team. (2-8-4; 10-5-2)

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Why not edit the rulebook to reflect that? "The period does not end until all activity related to the foul has ended. This includes reporting the foul and administering the subsequent free throws. If no free throws are appointed, the period is immediately ended, and the intermission begins after the foul is reported to the official scorer." This would clear up some of the confusion in this thread for future games.

The NFHS certainly could have written the rule the way that you describe or could make a change to have it become that. However, that is not the case now, and therefore, the period ends prior to the reporting of any foul for which there will not be any free throws.
There is even a case play in which free throws would be awarded for a foul during a try after the horn, but the team is down by too many points for the free throws to impact the outcome and the ruling is that the quarter is over, yet as the officials are leaving the court the coach of the winning team commits an unsporting technical foul. Now the total number of free throws could make a difference in the winner and the officials must stay and administer until a winner is determined or OT is warranted. So we do have a bizarre case ruling in which a quarter has ended, but then that is reversed due to the game having not yet ended and something else happening.

Originally Posted by Raymond

When a player fouls out isn't there a process in place that needs to be adhered to before any other actions ensue, such as commencing an intermission or time out?

If there is a technical foul prior, is the whole notification and substitution process ignored if it is the end of a quarter?

Yes, but the quarter is still over before the player is officially disqualified. You are correct that a time-out cannot be granted until a DQ’d player is replaced, but a period can certainly end prior to that. In fact, there is no need to replace the player if the game is ending.

For such occurring at the horn of quarters 1, 2, or 3, or with a tied score in the 4th or extra period, the notification and substitution process wouldn’t be ignored, it would simply take place after the official end of the period.