CE Scenario

[crosscountry55]

As you might have guessed, this happened in my game the other night. MS semi-final playoff game, all indications were the table was crisp and on their game. We probably got complacent. But 4th quarter, loud gym, physical game, and very close game. There was a lot to think about, and up until that point we had no reason not to trust the adults at the table.

Then the incident. It was the home scorer and it negatively affected the home team, so that made me feel a little better. Credit to the visiting head coach and his statistician who noticed it in time. I’ve had four or five CEs in 15 years, but this was the first one where the crew didn’t notice on our own. Textbook case of the head coach exercising his right to approach the table.

What really bugs me is that in the moment, we conflated the “no change in possession” rule for merited FTs with unmerited FTs. Gave the ball back to A under their basket after we cancelled the FT. Realized it later that night when something just didn’t feel right and I looked it up. First time I’ve flat-out kicked a rule in over a decade. I’m annoyed with myself.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

... we conflated the “no change in possession” rule for merited FTs with unmerited FTs. Gave the ball back to A under their basket after we cancelled the FT. Realized it later that night when something just didn’t feel right and I looked it up. First time I’ve flat-out kicked a rule in over a decade ...

crosscountry55: Could you be more specific? Not to beat you up, or to embarrass you, but for all of us to learn.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

crosscountry55: Could you be more specific? Not to beat you up, or to embarrass you, but for all of us to learn.

We were thinking, “B got the rebound, then they called TO during that possession, so no change in possession means that you ignore POI and put the ball back in play as you would have had the error not occurred.”

But that only happens when there’s a failure to award a merited FT. It has nothing to do the awarding of unmerited FTs.

So all you whipper-snappers out there (because we’re such a young group on this archaic platform and all), don’t make my mistake.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

We were thinking, “B got the rebound, then they called TO during that possession, so no change in possession means that you ignore POI and put the ball back in play as you would have had the error not occurred.” But that only happens when there’s a failure to award a merited FT. It has nothing to do the awarding of unmerited FTs. So all you whipper-snappers out there (because we’re such a young group on this archaic platform and all), don’t make my mistake.

2-10-6: If an error is corrected, play must be resumed from the point of interruption to rectify the error, unless it involves awarding a merited free throw(s) and there has been no change of team possession since the error was made, in which case play must resume as after any free-throw attempt(s).

[FlasherZ]

I occasionally end up doing table duties for games in which my children are involved. I've gotten a few compliments about a good table crew, keeping things smooth, and I think the local officials really appreciate not having to worry too much that things are out-of-whack there - and have built good rapport with them.

I also occasionally teach a local class on operating Nevco scoreboards and how to be reasonably good with them while being as accurate as possible. It's rather disconcerting when I go to a game (as a spectator) and see a high-function scoreboard and all you see is a clock, two scores, and if you're lucky two team foul counts...

Might be good to mention to the AD's that they consider developing the next generation of table crews too...

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by FlasherZ

It's rather disconcerting when I go to a game (as a spectator) and see a high-function scoreboard and all you see is a clock, two scores, and if you're lucky two team foul counts.

Preach it! That bugs me, too. Folks can multi-task on their phones these days like audio technicians in a recording studio. But put them on a scoreboard console and all of a sudden they are feature-limited.

Originally Posted by FlasherZ

Might be good to mention to the AD's that they consider developing the next generation of table crews too...

Good luck. Everyone wants to get paid these days. Back in the early 90s when I was in middle school, it was hardly a problem finding table volunteers, let alone income seekers. Not anymore.


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