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Old Tue Dec 28, 2021, 02:24pm
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... a post that gives a definitive answer to the question that was asked in the first place.
You are correct, I never gave a definitive cited answer to Indianaref, just my personal musings on how I deal with captains. In my defense, I actually thought that bob jenkins had covered it, but, as it turns out, not in as much detail as you. It also appears that your literal rule interpretation pretty much matches my "captain routine", if not by the literal rule language, than by purpose and intent.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2021, 03:56pm
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... my "captain routine" ... by purpose and intent ...
1) Invite all voted and/or appointed captains to pregame meeting with partner(s) and head coaches.
2) Announce, "Everybody ready!", before sounding whistle and tossing ball to start the game with a jump ball.
3) Answer questions from any team member (or coach) who approaches me politely.
4) Comply with any polite request from any team member (or coach) for a defensive match-up.
5) Use team leaders (or coaches) to calm down knucklehead team members.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2021, 04:00pm
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1) Invite all voted and/or appointed captains to pregame meeting with partner(s) and head coaches.
Though pretty sure that most mechanics guidelines require such, I just discovered (or re-discovered) that NFHS rules don't require captains (of any type) at a pregame meeting.

2-4-4,5: The referee must: Be responsible for having each team notified three minutes before each half is to begin. Verify with the head coach, prior to each contest, that his/her team member’s uniforms and equipment are legal and will be worn properly, and that all participants will exhibit proper sporting behavior throughout the contest.

With the exception of correctable errors, I have not paid a lot of attention to Rule 2 Officials And Their Duties over the past forty years. Shame on me.

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Old Tue Dec 28, 2021, 05:09pm
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... I've had partners who will say to numerous captains at the end of the pregame meeting, "We'll be starting in two minutes (or whatever is on the clock)".
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2) Announce, "Everybody ready!", before sounding whistle and tossing ball to start the game with a jump ball.
Some say that they fulfill this rule requirement (notifying the captains when play is about to begin at the start of the game) by sounding their whistle prior to the jump ball toss. To each his own. When in Rome ...
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Old Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:31pm
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Some say that they fulfill this rule requirement (notifying the captains when play is about to begin at the start of the game) by sounding their whistle prior to the jump ball toss. To each his own. When in Rome ...
It's a pity that basketball doesn't have a system like hockey where the captains have something on their jersey that identifies them. In hockey, the rule about only allowing captains (or alternate captains) to address the referee on rules matters is stringently enforced, because it is clear to the referees who is wearing the "C" or "A" on the jersey.

But then, the two games have evolved in different directions. In basketball, the captain is a relic of a prior time when coaches did not exist, so most of his duties are now performed by the coach. In hockey, the captains are still relevant, because the coach is stuck on the bench and is unable to talk to the referees, at least during live play. In basketball (except for the professional level), the jump ball is only used to start the game and overtime, but in hockey, the faceoff (that sport's equivalent) is the way to resume play, unless a penalty shot is appointed.
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