Fun With The Division Line …

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Rather basic play. Maybe IAABO members need to spend some time in these forums.

The good news is that IABBO must be getting lots of new officials. Unless you're so new that you've never done a sanctioned game, you shouldn't miss this one.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

... you shouldn't miss this one.

Most didn't, good no calls, but for the wrong reasons.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

... you shouldn't miss this one.

Good news. Just read a response that stated that this was not a dribbling situation and thus should not involve both feet and the ball.

Bad news. Same response stated that it was a backcourt violation because both the player (with no reference to feet) and the ball broke the "plane of the division line" giving the ball frontcourt status before going back into the backcourt.

[JRutledge]

You have too much time on your hand. Of course there will be people that do not know the specifics of the rule. Welcome to social media.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Of course there will be people that do not know the specifics of the rule.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Confusing dribbling across the division line (three points) with stepping across the division line (player location) is a common, but unacceptable mistake.

Agree. Anybody can screw up a rule, or an interpretation, even me, even the best officials, even the best "rules" officials, even JRutledge.

But it isn't just the wrong reasons that bother me, it's the large number of trained officials who answered correctly, but with the wrong reasons.

And unless one, as an IAABO member, scrolls through each individual response on the website, one won't begin to understand the depth of this problem because these "correct" answers will show up in the final results as "correct".

I hope that the IAABO Co-Coordinators of Interpreters address this "dribble" issue in their play commentary.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree. Anybody can screw up a rule, or an interpretation, even me, even the best officials, even the best "rules" officials, even JRutledge.

But it isn't just the wrong reasons that bother me, it's the large number of trained officials who answered correctly, but with the wrong reasons.

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Which is why I made the statement in another thread about young/new officials being careful whom they listen to. I've seen plenty of bad advice/info passed on by respected veteran officials. And why I tell young officials never to use the line "XZY/Somebody told me" when it comes to rules.

[JRutledge]

I was not talking about who screws up a rule, I am talking about you will have officials that do not spend a lot of time with the nuance of the rules. They will not say everything correctly or realize they did not say something correctly. I honestly cannot worry about that unless I am in a classroom or teaching setting. These are people answering a poll and commenting from all kinds of things. Just not shocking. Go to a social media officiating group and you will see what I am talking about.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am talking about you will have officials that do not spend a lot of time with the nuance of the rules. They will not say everything correctly or realize they did not say something correctly.

Not a new phenomena. Guys like this have been around for over forty years, and will probably continue to be around for many more years to come.