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Fun With The Division Line ...
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Not sure what we're supposed to go at.
Standard misapplication of the back court rule. No reason for the Center official to interject himself into the play b/c the Trail official was right there to see all the action.
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Two Feet And The Ball ???
Then I'm wrong because I believe that the call is correct, but I can be convinced otherwise.
Black 33 had already picked up her dribble when she made the pass to Black 24 who was in the backcourt. Because she wasn't dribbling, the "two feet and the ball" rule doesn't apply, it only applies to a player dribbling the ball across the division line. Before she made the pass to the backcourt, Black 33 had her right foot fully in the frontcourt and her left foot on the division line, with part of her shoe in the backcourt and part of her shoe in the frontcourt. I believe that her position and location gave her player control and her team team control in the frontcourt. But, or course, I could be wrong in my interpretation. Maybe it's the pivot foot that should matter here?
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Backcourt Location ...
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4-35-2: When a player is touching the backcourt, out of bounds or the three-point line, the player is located in backcourt, out of bounds or inside the three-point line, respectively. So non-dribbling Black 33, holding the ball with her right foot fully in the frontcourt and her left foot on the division line, with part of her shoe in the backcourt and part of her shoe in the frontcourt, still had backcourt status. If her left foot had been her pivot foot, she could have legally pivoted so that both feet were in the backcourt. It's not a "three points" dribbling across the division line situation. It's not a pivot foot situation. It's a player location situation. Raymond is correct, the Center should have let the Trail (not) make the call.
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Billy, you've been reffing way too long and been involved in way too many rules discussions not to know frontcourt/backcourt status.
I find it extremely hard to believe you didn't know the proper ruling for this play. What you're saying is that for your entire career you thought that a player holding a ball while straddling a division line had frontcourt status. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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Screwed Up ...
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Hey, at least I was smart enough to know what I didn't know, that I wasn't 100% sure of my answer, and to bring my question to the Forum for continuing education. Plus there were too many confusing lines on the court. And there was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! It wasn’t my fault, I swear to God!
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Blame The Locusts ...
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I should have viewed the situation as a player who caught a pass while straddling the division line, which, in this simplified version would have led me to the correct interpretation, that is, to allow the player to legally pass the ball wherever she wanted to.
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I just noticed the issue. This court is confusing. The division line is the white line and this was an incorrect call all the way. Sorry if that was stated, I just tried to see why there was a disagreement.
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This was clearly not a BC violation and was likely caused by the court configuration. But change it and move on. Peace
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Parallel Lines ...
We have a high school court here in my little corner of Connecticut that has black lines parallel and very close to (inches) both dark blue endlines (with little room behind said endlines). I've worked there dozens of times, always pregame it with my partners, yet we still occasionally have inadvertent whistles.
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Maybe this is a pivot foot situation. Call what you see. Don't call what you don't see.
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