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Old Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:02pm
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... the NCAA uses the exact same language when the clock is on or the clock is off.
I was actually more concerned about the NCAA ten second rule language than I was about the NCAA shot clock language. Does the NCAA ten second rule start on the inbounds "touch" (as opposed to the NFHS inbounds "control")?
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Old Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:05pm
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I was actually more concerned about the NCAA ten second rule language than I was about the NCAA shot clock language. Does the NCAA ten second rule start on the inbounds "touch" (as opposed to the NFHS inbounds "control")?
Yes. It starts on a touch after a throw-in and on control after a jump ball, a rebound, a steal.

The rules are available on-line. For free. just d/l the pdf.
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Old Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:17pm
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I was actually more concerned about the NCAA ten second rule language than I was about the NCAA shot clock language. Does the NCAA ten second rule start on the inbounds "touch" (as opposed to the NFHS inbounds "control")?
I will put it this way. NCAA uses the shot clock for all games and all levels. So yes the language reflects the rules that apply to the shot clock. Not a state adopted or conference adopted rule.

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NCAA Rule 10-10 says:

Section 10. 10-Second Backcourt
The 10-second count shall begin when a player legally touches the ball in his team’s backcourt, except on a rebound or jump ball. In such case, the 10-second count shall start on player control. Once the 10-second count begins, an inbounds player (and his team) shall not be in continuous control of a ball that is in his backcourt for 10 consecutive seconds. The 10-second count shall be reset on all stoppages of the game clock except when the defense causes the ball to be out of bounds, the offense retains the possession after a held ball, or there is a technical foul assessed against the offensive team. The offensive team will always have a reset of the 10-second count if the team is charged a timeout.
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NCAA Rule 5-10 says:

Section 10. Starting Game and Shot Clocks

Art. 2. The game clock shall be started when:
a. An inbounds player legally touches the ball after the throw-in has been
released
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b. A tossed ball on a jump ball is legally touched;
c. The ball legally touches a player on the playing court when a free throw
is not successful and is to remain live; and
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Old Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:39pm
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NCAA Rule 10-10 The 10-second count shall begin when a player legally touches the ball in his team’s backcourt ... NCAA Rule 5-10 Starting Game and Shot Clocks The game clock shall be started when An inbounds player legally touches the ball after the throw-in has been released ...
Thanks JRutledge. As I expected, The NCAA ten second rule perfectly matches the NCAA shot clock rule.

The NFHS should do the same (matching rules), or it can change the shot clock guideline to "control" (holding, dribbling) rather than "touch".
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