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Old Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:40am
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In MD, the 10-second count starts on control, because it is a visible count. I would prefer that it be non-visible and on the touch, but it is the way it is (unless MPSSAA decides to change the rule).
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Old Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:45am
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In MD, the 10-second count starts on control, because it is a visible count. I would prefer that it be non-visible and on the touch, but it is the way it is (unless MPSSAA decides to change the rule).
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If control, do coaches and fans react negatively to differences between shot clock numbers and ten second counts (if they exist)?
Most fans and coaches probably aren't cognizant enough to know the reason for the difference, and could get upset when their team's archrival isn't whistled for a ten second violation at 25 seconds on the shot clock.
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Old Mon Jul 19, 2021, 05:28pm
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The change doesn't go into effect until the 2022-23 season, so the current count-start rules are not affected.

Better question: how are the states/locales that currently use shot clocks handling the discrepancy?

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Old Mon Jul 19, 2021, 06:36pm
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Discrepancy, What Discrepancy ???

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Better question: how are the states/locales that currently use shot clocks handling the discrepancy?
Do they even realize that there is a discrepancy?

With our hybrid NCAA/NFHS rules for Connecticut private prep schools and shot clocks for varsity games, I honestly believe that many of local officials don't know, or don't care, about the discrepancy, nor does the private prep schools sports governing body (coaches, athletic directors, and headmasters).
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Old Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:52am
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Use the shot clock to administer the 10-second backcourt count (9-8).
Of course, this could mean to do the math in your head and to use the shot clock instead of a visual count. Control occurs two seconds after touch? Call the ten second violation with 23 on the shot clock.

Just kidding. I fully realize that the guidelines are mostly based on NCAA rules where both the shot clock and the ten second count start on the touch.
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Old Tue Jul 27, 2021, 06:36pm
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That would be a 10-second violation at 18, not 23. Any way, I hope that the shot clock would become more massively distributed.
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Old Wed Jul 28, 2021, 07:55am
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Of course, this could mean to do the math in your head and to use the shot clock instead of a visual count. Control occurs two seconds after touch? Call the ten second violation with 23 on the shot clock.
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That would be a 10-second violation at 18, not 23.
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NFHS Shot Clock Guidelines: In accordance with Rule 2-14, each state association may adopt a procedure by which it implements a 35-second shot clock ...
I've got a Pickett Model N-500-ES Trig All Metal Slide Rule and I know how to use it.

35-2-10=23
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Old Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:55am
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I was using a 30-second shot clock for my calculations, because that is what both DC and MD use for their games. You'd be right with a 35-second shot clock.
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Old Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:56pm
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I've got a Pickett Model N-500-ES Trig All Metal Slide Rule and I know how to use it.

35-2-10=23

And I have both a half-size and a full-size Post Versalog Slide Rule as well as a Post Trig Slide Rule and I know how to use all three of them, !

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Old Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:34pm
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And I have both a half-size and a full-size Post Versalog Slide Rule as well as a Post Trig Slide Rule and I know how to use all three of them.
Before I retired from teaching middle school science I came across a large demonstration slide rule, about six feet long, behind stacks of books in a little used storage room. I remember my high school chemistry teacher, Mr. Dalton, back in the late 1960's, using one of these demonstration slide rules to teach us how to use slide rules.

So I figured I'd start a school slide rule club to teach interested students how to use slide rules, as old-timers did back before there were calculators. I got a local newspaper reporter to interview me for an article in which I asked people from town to check their attics and basements and donate any old slide rules to the school, and I received several donations.

After teaching the use of the slide rule, I figured the student club members could practice multiplication, division, squares, square roots, cubes, and cube root problems, and possibly having some type of "calculation contest" as a wrap-up activity.

I had a write up in the school club handbook, filled a display case in a hallway near my classroom with the slide rules I had collected, as well as the giant demonstration slide rule, and asked all math and science teachers in all three grades to talk-up the slide rule club.

I knew that the slide rule club wouldn't be a super popular club, but I figured that a few nerdy kids interested in science and/or math would sign up. The didn't even have to stay after school, clubs were held once a week during normal school hours (with shortened class periods that day).

750 kids in the school.

Not a single student signed up for the slide rule club as one of their top choices.

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