NFHS Shot Clock Guidelines ...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Use the shot clock to administer the 10-second backcourt count (9-8).

Of course, this could mean to do the math in your head and to use the shot clock instead of a visual count. Control occurs two seconds after touch? Call the ten second violation with 23 on the shot clock.

Just kidding. I fully realize that the guidelines are mostly based on NCAA rules where both the shot clock and the ten second count start on the touch.

[ilyazhito]

That would be a 10-second violation at 18, not 23. Any way, I hope that the shot clock would become more massively distributed.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Of course, this could mean to do the math in your head and to use the shot clock instead of a visual count. Control occurs two seconds after touch? Call the ten second violation with 23 on the shot clock.

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

That would be a 10-second violation at 18, not 23.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

NFHS Shot Clock Guidelines: In accordance with Rule 2-14, each state association may adopt a procedure by which it implements a 35-second shot clock ...

I've got a Pickett Model N-500-ES Trig All Metal Slide Rule and I know how to use it.

35-2-10=23

[ilyazhito]

I was using a 30-second shot clock for my calculations, because that is what both DC and MD use for their games. You'd be right with a 35-second shot clock.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've got a Pickett Model N-500-ES Trig All Metal Slide Rule and I know how to use it.

35-2-10=23

And I have both a half-size and a full-size Post Versalog Slide Rule as well as a Post Trig Slide Rule and I know how to use all three of them, !

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

And I have both a half-size and a full-size Post Versalog Slide Rule as well as a Post Trig Slide Rule and I know how to use all three of them.

Before I retired from teaching middle school science I came across a large demonstration slide rule, about six feet long, behind stacks of books in a little used storage room. I remember my high school chemistry teacher, Mr. Dalton, back in the late 1960's, using one of these demonstration slide rules to teach us how to use slide rules.

So I figured I'd start a school slide rule club to teach interested students how to use slide rules, as old-timers did back before there were calculators. I got a local newspaper reporter to interview me for an article in which I asked people from town to check their attics and basements and donate any old slide rules to the school, and I received several donations.

After teaching the use of the slide rule, I figured the student club members could practice multiplication, division, squares, square roots, cubes, and cube root problems, and possibly having some type of "calculation contest" as a wrap-up activity.

I had a write up in the school club handbook, filled a display case in a hallway near my classroom with the slide rules I had collected, as well as the giant demonstration slide rule, and asked all math and science teachers in all three grades to talk-up the slide rule club.

I knew that the slide rule club wouldn't be a super popular club, but I figured that a few nerdy kids interested in science and/or math would sign up. The didn't even have to stay after school, clubs were held once a week during normal school hours (with shortened class periods that day).

750 kids in the school.

Not a single student signed up for the slide rule club as one of their top choices.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Not a single student signed up for the slide rule club as one of their top choices.

Imagine that.

[ilyazhito]

Why are we talking about slide rules? I do the math simply by determining what the initial shot clock value is and how many seconds have elapsed. Any other officials working with a shot clock due the same thing.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Why are we talking about slide rules? I do the math simply by determining what the initial shot clock value is and how many seconds have elapsed.

Good question ilyazhito. You're probably one of the few non-science, non-math, non-old timers, who knows that a slide rule doesn't allow for addition and subtraction calculations.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Before I retired from teaching middle school science I came across a large demonstration slide rule, about six feet long, behind stacks of books in a little used storage room. I remember my high school chemistry teacher, Mr. Dalton, back in the late 1960's, using one of these demonstration slide rules to teach us how to use slide rules.

So I figured I'd start a school slide rule club to teach interested students how to use slide rules, as old-timers did back before there were calculators. I got a local newspaper reporter to interview me for an article in which I asked people from town to check their attics and basements and donate any old slide rules to the school, and I received several donations.

After teaching the use of the slide rule, I figured the student club members could practice multiplication, division, squares, square roots, cubes, and cube root problems, and possibly having some type of "calculation contest" as a wrap-up activity.

I had a write up in the school club handbook, filled a display case in a hallway near my classroom with the slide rules I had collected, as well as the giant demonstration slide rule, and asked all math and science teachers in all three grades to talk-up the slide rule club.

I knew that the slide rule club wouldn't be a super popular club, but I figured that a few nerdy kids interested in science and/or math would sign up. The didn't even have to stay after school, clubs were held once a week during normal school hours (with shortened class periods that day).

750 kids in the school.

Not a single student signed up for the slide rule club as one of their top choices.

Years and years ago when I was doing some substitute teaching of Mathematics in the Toledo Public School I found one like that in Waite H.S. The teacher whose room it was in told me that it was there when she started teaching. I attempted to buy it from TPS but it was not listed as TPS property so TPS could not sell it to more but if I decided to take it I would be charged with theft of school property, lol! Of course if I had managed to buy it from TPS Bonnie would have probably divorced me if I had brought it home, LOL!

MTD, Sr.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Why are we talking about slide rules? I do the math simply by determining what the initial shot clock value is and how many seconds have elapsed. Any other officials working with a shot clock due the same thing.

Billy and I are talking about slide rules because we are retired STEM professionals and the U.S. put men on the Moon using slide rules.

MTD, Sr.

[ilyazhito]

That make sense. How are slide rules relevant to the shot clock?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

the U.S. put men on the Moon using slide rules.

MTD, Sr.

I thought they used a Saturn rocket?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I thought they used a Saturn rocket?

ROTFLMTO!!

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

How are slide rules relevant to the shot clock?

They're not. It's an inside joke and you appear to be on the outside. My off-topic, off-season, dead-Forum slide rule/shot clock posts were designed to flush out Mark T. DeNucci, Sr., and he took the bait.