When you coming back?

[BillyMac]

... or are you just happy to see me?

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And when you need to report or otherwise speak?

I've been wearing my surgical mask in the presence of my adult children and grandchildren and they have no problem understanding me, nor do I have any problem being understood while masked when I venture out of my bomb shelter to hunt and gather food once a week.

It would certainly be less than ideal to officiate a basketball game while masked, but it can be done. I'd prefer not to, but I will if it helps to keep the players, coaches, table crew, and my partner safe.

We have a veteran official on our local board who is deaf and doesn't speak. I've worked with him a dozen times and he has no major problems with communication, game management, etc. Pregame is tough, but once we get onto the court he's a great official, a good partner, and is well respected by coaches and players.

Masks. Electronic whistles. Gloves. Bottles of hand sanitizer in our pockets. I hope that it doesn't come to that. Hopefully we'll be in better shape when school starts in September.

On the other hand, if things get worse, we may have bigger things, more important things, to worry about than how we'll officiate kid's games, like the delicate balancing act of preserving both our health and our economy (I'm lucky, I'm retired).

Luckily I only officiate basketball. I'll leave it up my fall sports official friends to work out any safety protocol bugs before I start officiating in late November.

Fortunately, I don't count on basketball officiating for the income, so sitting out a season, by state decision, or by my own personal health decision, won't have a major effect on my wallet.

My daughter is expecting in a few weeks, so I have made a personal health decision not to got to church (reopened with restrictions last week) and not to go the gym (reopened with restrictions yesterday) until after I see my new grandson.

Even then, I will still wear my surgical mask and maintain social distancing, better safe than sorry.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've been wearing my surgical mask in the presence of my adult children and grandchildren and they have no problem understanding me, nor do I have any problem being understood while masked when I venture out of my bomb shelter to hunt and gather food once a week.

The point wasn't about the mask being a problem with intelligibility but you still have a whistle. Where does the whistle go while you're trying to talk? Still inside the mask? That is going to be annoying. How to you put the whistle back in your mouth? Pull the mask aside, touch it, then touch everything else, pretty much defeating the purpose of the mask.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The point wasn't about the mask being a problem with intelligibility but you still have a whistle. Where does the whistle go while you're trying to talk? Still inside the mask? That is going to be annoying. How to you put the whistle back in your mouth? Pull the mask aside, touch it, then touch everything else, pretty much defeating the purpose of the mask.

I can sound my whistle through the surgical mask (washable cloth) with the whistle on the outside of the mask (which is how I pictured bucky's post). Still far from ideal, but possible. Probably need a new mask each quarter as it gets wetter and wetter.

Then of course there's always those electronic whistles.

The "plague" will either be winding down, maybe with the help of an MRNA vaccine, or a therapeutic drug (maybe dexamethasonen), in which case we won't have to worry about masks, or it may come back with a vengeance where schools may not be in session, and of course, no games.

The gray area in between is where we may have to get creative with masks, electronic whistles, gloves, hand sanitizer, antiseptic wipes, etc.

The schools, or the state, will tell us what we need to do, we can do it, or chose not to work games, as groups (boards, associations, etc.), or as individuals based on our own health and our personal acceptable level of risk or responsibility.

If there are COVID-19 games, and if we chose to officiate, no safety protocol will be 100% perfect, there will probably always be some degree of compromise, compromising the health of the participants, or compromising the quality of our officiating.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We have a veteran official on our local board who is deaf and doesn't speak. I've worked with him a dozen times and he has no major problems with communication, game management, etc. Pregame is tough, but once we get onto the court he's a great official, a good partner, and is well respected by coaches and players.

Masks. Electronic whistles. Gloves. Bottles of hand sanitizer in our pockets. I hope that it doesn't come to that.

In my area, there is a hearing-impaired person who both coaches and officiates basketball. This person relies on lip-reading to know what people say. How do officials that are required to wear masks communicate with hearing-impaired coaches or partners?

Right before COVID-19 broke out, I got hand sanitizer more to be safe during flu season than anything else. Little did I know it was about to become a hot commodity and that I might need it outside of flu season.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

How do officials that are required to wear masks communicate with hearing-impaired coaches or partners?

[bucky]

One can grab the whistle through the mask, remove it from the mouth and speak if necessary. Speaking will be an issue for everybody, presuming all are wearing masks. Imagine all the things you would not understand from a coach who is wearing a mask. It is simply the nature of the situation. Same with lip-readers. The nature of radio makes it impossible for lip readers and it would be the same here. There will always be some that are physically impaired. Can't cater to everyone although we do the best we can. If the masks were worn, imagine how big body language would become, lol. The electronic whistles could work but they do sound different and there would be a learning curve as far as delays, inadvertent whistles, looking different, etc.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bucky

One can grab the whistle through the mask, remove it from the mouth and speak if necessary. Speaking will be an issue for everybody, presuming all are wearing masks. Imagine all the things you would not understand from a coach who is wearing a mask. It is simply the nature of the situation. Same with lip-readers. The nature of radio makes it impossible for lip readers and it would be the same here. There will always be some that are physically impaired. Can't cater to everyone although we do the best we can. If the masks were worn, imagine how big body language would become, lol. The electronic whistles could work but they do sound different and there would be a learning curve as far as delays, inadvertent whistles, looking different, etc.

I've tried 3 of the electronic whistles. They may sound a little different but the ones I got were really close to a Fox 40. In fact, 2 of them were made by Fox 40
. They were just slightly quieter (as measured by my ears AND a sound meter).

They sound instantly when pressing the button, so there isn't any delay to speak of. In fact, they may have a bit better timing than air since, if you were exhaling at the point you needed a whistle, you have to breath in first before you can blow (much).

Also, the sound can be held at full volume while pressing the button. With air, the attack is sharp and loud but it is difficult to maintain peak volume and the level quickly falls below electronic whistle's level after a brief time....but usually longer than we normally need. It may be that the advantage of the standard whistle is the strong attack.

As for being able to grab the whistle through the mask, that means you'll be touching your mask countless times through the game. That, touching the mask, particularly over and over, is one of things that defeats the purpose of wearing one.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I've tried 3 of the electronic whistles. They may sound a little different but the ones I got were really close to a Fox 40. In fact, 2 of them were made by Fox 40
. They were just slightly quieter (as measured by my ears AND a sound meter).

They sound instantly when pressing the button, so there isn't any delay to speak of. In fact, they may have a bit better timing than air since, if you were exhaling at the point you needed a whistle, you have to breath in first before you can blow (much).

Also, the sound can be held at full volume while pressing the button. With air, the attack is sharp and loud but it is difficult to maintain peak volume and the level quickly falls below electronic whistle's level after a brief time....but usually longer than we normally need. It may be that the advantage of the standard whistle is the strong attack.

As for being able to grab the whistle through the mask, that means you'll be touching your mask countless times through the game. That, touching the mask, particularly over and over, is one of things that defeats the purpose of wearing one.

I was referring to the delay of the official deciding to press the button. Some might be quick and do it well after a short term of practice/adjustment/refinement. The other 80%, many on the older side, could easily struggle. I can see where many would opt out of a hand-held whistle simply because they are "set in their ways" and are resistant to change. You ever try to critique and older official? it rarely works. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

I would not envision touching the mask "..countless times.." Additionally, one could easily put a new on one every quarter. The masks protect others from the wearer. I would not be surprised, although it is not perfect, if all players/coaches/officials were required to be tested. It is getting easier and more efficient every day. If there are 30 players, maybe 4 coaches, and 3 officials who were tested/cleared, touching the ball/masks, etc. would not be a concern of mine. The ball could easily be sanitized/wiped, masks changed, etc. and again, I would not be too concerned. Maybe I am too optimistic.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bucky

The masks protect others from the wearer.

Something that many can't seem to comprehend.

After having my appointment postponed once due to COVID-19, I had my six month checkup a few days ago (I'm a cardiac patient). My doctor told me that if all of those who were medically able, and of appropriate age, would simply wear a surgical mask all the time (or at least while indoors) when out in public (outside the family home) we would be a lot healthier and be able to fully restart our economy.

For many reasons, some simply can't wear a mask. But for many others, while they can wear a mask, they simply don't want to wear a mask, and refuse to wear a mask, putting the health and economy of the country at great risk, all because of their Constitutional right to have the freedom not to do what others (government leaders, medical experts) advise (or mandate) them to do.

General Welfare. The concern of the government for the health, peace, morality, and safety of its citizens. Providing for the welfare of the general public is a basic goal of government. The preamble to the U.S. Constitution cites promotion of the general welfare as a primary reason for the creation of the Constitution.

I wear a mask when I venture out of my bomb shelter once a week to hunt and gather food. I don't view it as a political statement but rather as a patriotic statement and as a religious statement.

Love your neighbor as yourself. (Mark 12:31)

MRNA vaccines, hydroxychloroquine, dexamethasone, N-95 masks, ventilators, differentiating essential and nonessential workers, restricting international and interstate travel, opening or closing schools, arguing over proper names for the virus and the disease, differentiating essential and nonessential activities, testing, contact tracing, hand sanitizer, disinfectant wipes, washing hands, debates over state governors taking over too much power, developing herd immunity, temperature checks, sneeze guards, pointing fingers at who caused this, etc., are all part of the equation, and may deserve a seat at the table, but a good start to digging ourselves out of this gigantic "plague" hole is just to wear a damn surgical mask when out in public indoors, maybe even outdoors in a crowd (concert, athletic event, etc.).

It's a cheap fix. It's an easy fix. It's common sense. It's science. We don't need anybody mandate that we must do this, let's just do it. Why not? What can go wrong? What's the downside? We all look foolish for several months?

Yeah, maybe years from now, historians will look back at this and say, "Look at those old photos of people wearing all those silly, stupid looking masks, making them all look weak and defenseless, acting like lemmings in the face of so-called experts, not knowing, as we now know today, that the virus would just simply go away all by itself in the July heat". If I'm still alive, I would be pleased to look at those old photos and laugh at myself. I might even roll around on the floor laughing my ass off.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I've tried 3 of the electronic whistles. They may sound a little different but the ones I got were really close to a Fox 40. In fact, 2 of them were made by Fox 40
. They were just slightly quieter (as measured by my ears AND a sound meter).

They sound instantly when pressing the button, so there isn't any delay to speak of. In fact, they may have a bit better timing than air since, if you were exhaling at the point you needed a whistle, you have to breath in first before you can blow (much).

Also, the sound can be held at full volume while pressing the button. With air, the attack is sharp and loud but it is difficult to maintain peak volume and the level quickly falls below electronic whistle's level after a brief time....but usually longer than we normally need. It may be that the advantage of the standard whistle is the strong attack.

As for being able to grab the whistle through the mask, that means you'll be touching your mask countless times through the game. That, touching the mask, particularly over and over, is one of things that defeats the purpose of wearing one.

I listened to the Fox 40 and the Windsor electronic whistles on u tube. I actually thought the Windsor sounded more like our fox 40 air whistles. At this stage in Illinois air/blow whistles are not permitted. Might be a good idea to grab one in near future...

[SNIPERBBB]

I just wonder how many of these will sneak into the stands this winter...