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Old Fri Mar 06, 2020, 10:56am
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The location of the throw-in is irrelevant to any ruling.
In terms of officials knowing backcourt rule and interpretation, agree 100%.

However, a throwin from the frontcourt endline that is touched (no player control) by the offense and goes into the backcourt where it is retrieved again by the offense will generate a greater negative crowd reaction (coaches and players seem to understand the rule) than the same exact play from a sideline throwin.

I've been hearing moans, groans, and jeers from fans for forty years.

This is one of those plays where I wish I could stop the game and explain the real rule to the fans, "There was no player control and team control established in the frontcourt".

Grandmas and Grandpas don't seem to understand the backcourt rule and interpretation.

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Old Fri Mar 06, 2020, 02:36pm
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In terms of officials knowing backcourt rule and interpretation, agree 100%.

However, a throwin from the frontcourt endline that is touched (no player control) by the offense and goes into the backcourt where it is retrieved again by the offense will generate a greater negative crowd reaction (coaches and players seem to understand the rule) than the same exact play from a sideline throwin.

I've been hearing moans, groans, and jeers from fans for forty years.

This is one of those plays where I wish I could stop the game and explain the real rule to the fans, "There was no player control and team control established in the frontcourt".

Grandmas and Grandpas don't seem to understand the backcourt rule and interpretation.

Not sure why the moans and groans are relevant to knowing the rule. Are you stopping the game to explain the rule to the fans?
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2020, 02:52pm
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Not sure why the moans and groans are relevant to knowing the rule.
Knowing rule misconceptions in advance can help basketball officials understand where players, coaches, parents, and fans, are “coming from”, especially when dealing with a questioning coach or player, already knowing in advance what they're confused about.

But that's not the important part.

More so, knowing rule misconceptions in advance can help rookie basketball officials by clearing up misconceptions that they might have had coming into basketball officiating after years of being a player, or a fan.

I know some inexperienced (or low quality experienced) basketball officials who carry many misconceptions (including this backcourt one).

I believe that it's best to head these misconceptions "off at the pass", and not to ignore them, or discount them, but to deal with them (especially in the case of rookie basketball officials) "head on".

Don't only teach the correct rule, but offer the misconceived rule and warn against it.

Frontcourt endline versus sideline throwin?

99% of us know the rule, let's not ignore the 1% that don't, confront them with the misconception and clear it up, the earlier, the better.

Ignoring this misconception when we are aware of it is not going to be helpful to our cause.

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Are you stopping the game to explain the rule to the fans?
Sometimes I'd like to, but it's not part of my job description.

Instead I just think to myself, "Ignorant idiots", shake my head, and laugh it off.

After forty years, I know better than to confront angry fans, especially well dressed ones carrying pitchforks and torches.

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Old Fri Mar 06, 2020, 05:18pm
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In terms of officials knowing backcourt rule and interpretation, agree 100%.

However, a throwin from the frontcourt endline that is touched (no player control) by the offense and goes into the backcourt where it is retrieved again by the offense will generate a greater negative crowd reaction (coaches and players seem to understand the rule) than the same exact play from a sideline throwin.

I've been hearing moans, groans, and jeers from fans for forty years.

This is one of those plays where I wish I could stop the game and explain the real rule to the fans, "There was no player control and team control established in the frontcourt".

Grandmas and Grandpas don't seem to understand the backcourt rule and interpretation.

Not only that, coaches don't understand it. I bet I had 7-8 "last to touch/first to touch" backcourt violations this season, all of them after the defense had tipped the ball in the frontcourt, then the offense touches it before it goes into the backcourt where they touch it first. They are convinced that if the defense tips the ball, all bets are off and backcourt isn't possible.
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