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Old Sun Jan 19, 2020, 08:02pm
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It irks me a little bit when, as the R, I ask my partner if he has anything to add and he asks for speaking captains.
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As a courtesy to my partner, I then always ask if he/she has anything to add. Last week, a partner went into the whole "black line all around, supports are out of play, shirts tucked in, get 'em out promptly after TOs, whistle stops play, speaking captains," blah blah blah.
Of course, we know exactly who to blame in both of these situations.

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Never miss a good chance to shut up.” (Will Rogers)
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2020, 02:35pm
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Concision and brevity

When I am the "R", after I give my 1 min. 30 seconds "pregame speech", I do not ever ask the "U" if they have anything to add.
I learned to not solicit the input of the "U" the hard-way several seasons ago, when I used to [out of politeness] ask the U--"do you have anything to add?" Man, this "U" went on and on--saying: "we don't like to blow the whistle anymore than you like to hear it ; please be fair and honest if we officials happen to not see who the ball when OOB on ...blah, blah, blah". This U went on for a good 3 minutes. It was back then that I swore to Never solicit the "U" again--heck some guys who are "U" don't want to have to say a word at all--they figure "well, the Assignor made you the R for a reason, right; it's not my job."
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:18pm
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When I am the "R", after I give my 1 min. 30 seconds "pregame speech", I do not ever ask the "U" if they have anything to add.
Smart guy.

But I still ask for input just to be polite and sometimes it comes back to bite me in the butt.

Mine: Uniforms and equipment are legal, and will be worn properly. Participants will exhibit good sportsmanship. Optional: Thirty/sixty second timeouts.

When I'm the umpire, and I'm asked for input, I will only add 30/60 timeout requests if it hasn't already been covered, otherwise it's simply, "Have fun".
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:45pm
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When I am the "R", after I give my 1 min. 30 seconds "pregame speech"
I stopped reading after this.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2020, 09:18pm
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Agreed. 90 seconds is way too long. Mine takes about ten seconds.
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:49am
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90 seconds is way too long. Mine takes about ten seconds.
Including introductions? Last week I had a game with tricaptains on one team and quadcaptains on the other.

Or ten seconds for just the spiel part of it?

Here's my spiel, word for word: "Coaches, please make sure that your players are legally equipped and that they know how to wear their uniforms properly. Coaches and captains, please make sure that everyone exhibits good sportsmanship. Any questions? Have fun."

Or do you not do introductions?

Please let's not resurrect the various threads about first and last names, i.e., Mr. Mac, or Billy, or BillyMac.
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:24am
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Including introductions? Last week I had a game with tricaptains on one team and quadcaptains on the other.

Or ten seconds for just the spiel part of it?

Here's my spiel, word for word: "Coaches, please make sure that your players are legally equipped and that they know how to wear their uniforms properly. Coaches and captains, please make sure that everyone exhibits good sportsmanship. Any questions? Have fun."

Or do you not do introductions?

Please let's not resurrect the various threads about first and last names, i.e., Mr. Mac, or Billy, or BillyMac.
In NCAA-Men's and Virginia HS, captains' meetings and coaches' introductions are done separately. There is an expectation from some college supervisors to say something of substance to the captains.
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:16pm
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I’ve been a U on a college game where the R’s captains meeting lasted, I kid you not, three minutes. Everyone was ready to be done with it about 2:40 earlier than he was.

The other U mentioned it to the assigner who told the R that he needed to condense his future spiels.
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