End of Game Timing Situation

[BigCat]

When end of game is near and clock is an issue (because of score) have a count...Even if you are C or L. Inbounds is touched and you move your arm halfway. That’s definite enough knowledge. .5 of second.

Even if you don’t move your arm you can say it was half second. Put time on clock. Trying to say it was .2 or .3 is likely a guess.

[Kelvin green]

Not much of a guess... I suspect that the person used the rule on catch and shoot to assist in determining this time. I wish they’d just put it in the book for other situations so it is legitimate.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

Not much of a guess... I suspect that the person used the rule on catch and shoot to assist in determining this time. I wish they’d just put it in the book for other situations so it is legitimate.

Agreed. NCAAW has a *minimum* of .3 in this situation -- I wish they'd allow for a *specific* .3 when the referee(s) know it's immediate.

[Indianaref]

Whether this still applies or not????

2004-05 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations

SITUATION 8: As the official calls a traveling violation, he/she properly sounds the whistle and gives the signal to stop the clock. While doing this, the official is able to see the exact time remaining in the fourth quarter. The clock shows 55 seconds remaining. The timer stops the clock: (a) at 55 seconds; (b) at 54 seconds; (c) at 53 seconds; or (d) 50 seconds. RULING: In (a) and (b), there has been no obvious timing mistake. The timer should be able to react and stop the clock in one second when the whistle is heard and/or the signal is seen. However, in (c) and (d), more than one second of time elapsed from the time the signal was given until the clock was stopped. The referee will order 55 seconds put on the clock in (c) and (d). COMMENT: By interpretation, “lag or reaction” time is limited to one second when the official’s signal is heard and/or seen clearly. The rules do not permit the referee to correct situations resulting in normal reaction time of the timer which results in a “lag” in stopping the clock. Additional time which may subsequently run off the clock (after the one second lag time) is considered a timing mistake and may be corrected. (5-10-1)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

Whether this still applies or not? ... 2004-05 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations ... By interpretation, “lag or reaction” time is limited to one second when the official’s signal is heard and/or seen clearly. The rules do not permit the referee to correct situations resulting in normal reaction time of the timer which results in a “lag” in stopping the clock. (5-10-1)

"Lag time" ended in 2006-07, when "exact time" was added to the rule.

5-10-1:The referee may correct an obvious mistake by the timer to
start or stop the clock properly only when he/she has definite information
relative to the time involved. The exact time observed by the official may
be placed on the clock.

COMMENTS ON THE 2006-07 RULES REVISIONS

LAG TIME ELIMINATED (5-10-1): This change eliminates the need for lag time or reaction time on the part of the clock operator. The referee may put the exact time observed by an official back on the game clock. The committee felt that with new clock technology and the ability to observe tenths of a second, when an official has definite knowledge relative to the time involved, he/she should have the ability to put the correct time on the game clock.

Can anybody cite the old "lag time" rule and/or interpretation, I can't find it, other than to cite its elimination?

[Indianaref]

Thanks Billy!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Can anybody cite the old "lag time" rule and/or interpretation, I can't find it, other than to cite its elimination?

Is it possible that the only interpretation of "lag time" is cited in Indianaref's citation, 2004-05 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations SITUATION 8?

There must be earlier rules or interpretations?

Looked twice, can't find any.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Is it possible that the only interpretation of "lag time" is cited in Indianaref's citation, 2004-05 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations SITUATION 8? There must be earlier rules or interpretations?

2004-05 Casebook: 5.10.1.B "Reaction time"

Was this ever a rule?

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