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Old Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:56pm
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She might be conflating her ruling with shot clock rules. In the case of a shot clock, an air ball does not result in a reset of the shot clock. But in the case of the three seconds rule, this is not a thing.


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Don't mean to hijack, but are there any states that use a shot clock in middle school games?
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:35am
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We are a shot clock state(ca) for high school but we don't use it for middle school.
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2019, 02:50pm
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Same thing applies in DC and MD (and in VA for a few private schools).

For the purposes of the 3-second rule, any try suspends the 3-second count, including an airball. For shot clock purposes, only a try hitting the ring, the flange, or entering the basket resets the shot clock.
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2019, 04:54pm
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Same thing applies in DC and MD (and in VA for a few private schools).

For the purposes of the 3-second rule, any try suspends the 3-second count, including an airball. For shot clock purposes, only a try hitting the ring, the flange, or entering the basket resets the shot clock.
Suspends means that you would resume the count from where you left off. On any try, the 3-second count is terminated.
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:15pm
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My bad. The 3 second count terminates. Any try ends the 3-second count. A pass to a player in the lane might suspend the count, depending on what he does with the ball after receiving it.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2019, 01:29am
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My bad. The 3 second count terminates. Any try ends the 3-second count. A pass to a player in the lane might suspend the count, depending on what he does with the ball after receiving it.
Nope. Try again.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:24am
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My bad. The 3 second count terminates. Any try ends the 3-second count. A pass to a player in the lane might suspend the count, depending on what he does with the ball after receiving it.
SUSPEND THE COUNT......Are you making this up??? Better get in the rules or contact Mr. Battista.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:56am
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I used the wrong word initially. I then mentioned a situation where the count could actually be suspended.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:49pm
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We are a shot clock state(ca) for high school but we don't use it for middle school.
I hear the vast majority of California's varsity games are officiated by two man crews. I can only imagine how challenging it would be to see all the off-ball screening, rebounding action, in addition to, managing the game and shot clocks.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2019, 06:00pm
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I hear the vast majority of California's varsity games are officiated by two man crews. I can only imagine how challenging it would be to see all the off-ball screening, rebounding action, in addition to, managing the game and shot clocks.
All true.
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Old Fri Dec 20, 2019, 04:44pm
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I hear the vast majority of California's varsity games are officiated by two man crews. I can only imagine how challenging it would be to see all the off-ball screening, rebounding action, in addition to, managing the game and shot clocks.
Sadly true (at least in the greater LA area). My son was fortunate to play in a league that used three. It was always jarring to get to the first couple of rounds of the section playoffs and only have two refs (and generally the two were not as skilled as the three they got in league--it often felt like moving from varsity refs to JV refs). I rarely saw two refs really up to the challenge of managing a high level varsity game.
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Old Fri Dec 20, 2019, 06:09pm
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Sadly true (at least in the greater LA area).
You guys definitely wouldn't want your kids playing in most parts of Connecticut, especially in my little corner, where a team might not see three officials until the quarterfinals of the state tournament.

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