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Old Sun Oct 06, 2019, 05:01pm
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Intentional Foul Definition

Part of the definition of an Intentional Foul states:

" contact that is not a legitimate attempt to play the Ball/player specifically designed to stop clock or keep from starting."

What does this mean in practice? Would a defender grabbing the Jersey of a player without the ball, fit this with 10 seconds left in a tie game?

Teams that are behind in a close game in the final minutes strategically want to stop the clock, to extend the game.

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Old Sun Oct 06, 2019, 06:15pm
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A player without the ball may or may not be involved in the play...fouling a cutter is fouling a player without the ball, but it may be a normal instinctive reaction that leads to the foul. So, I prefer to categorize the player as not being involved in the play.

Grabbing and holding onto a player away from the ball and not involved in the play in the closing part of the game (or any time for that matter) should be ruled intentional almost every time. It has no legitimate purpose aside form stopping the clock and putting a preferable player on the line.

The defense has to make at least a minimal effort to make the foul look like a legitimate defensive play.
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Old Sun Oct 06, 2019, 09:22pm
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Yes, your example would fit the rule to a T. Same thing would apply for grabbing or pushing a player with the ball from behind.
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Part of the definition of an Intentional Foul states:
" contact that is not a legitimate attempt to play the Ball/player specifically designed to stop clock or keep from starting."
What does this mean in practice? Would a defender grabbing the Jersey of a player without the ball, fit this with 10 seconds left in a tie game?
Teams that are behind in a close game in the final minutes strategically want to stop the clock, to extend the game.
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The text of the 2017,18 POE on Late Game Intentional Fouls seems to provide an ample answer to your inquiry:
"The committee is concerned about the lack of enforcement for intentional fouls during any part of the game but especially at the end of a game. The intentional foul rule has evolved into misapplication and personal interpretations.
An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul that may or may not be premeditated and is not based solely on the severity of the act, it is contact that: Neutralizes an opponent’s obvious advantageous position. Contact on an opponent who is clearly not in the play. May be excessive contact. Contact that is not necessarily premeditated or based solely on the severity of the act.
This type of foul may be strategic to stop the clock or create a situation that may be tactically done for the team taking action. This foul may be innocent in severity, but without any playing of the ball, it becomes an intentional act such as a player wrapping their arms around an opponent.
The act may be excessive in its intensity and force of the action. These actions are all intentional fouls and are to be called as such.
Officials must be aware of the game situations as the probability of fouling late in the game is an accepted coaching strategy and is utilized by many coaches in some form.
Officials must have the courage to enforce the intentional foul rule properly."

Here's a PowerPoint lesson used back then to create a working awareness of this POE:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t3...iN42-ocBPjDWkw
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Old Mon Oct 07, 2019, 05:24am
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The text of the 2017,18 POE on Late Game Intentional Fouls seems to provide an ample answer to your inquiry:
"The committee is concerned about the lack of enforcement for intentional fouls during any part of the game but especially at the end of a game. The intentional foul rule has evolved into misapplication and personal interpretations.
An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul that may or may not be premeditated and is not based solely on the severity of the act, it is contact that: Neutralizes an opponent’s obvious advantageous position. Contact on an opponent who is clearly not in the play. May be excessive contact. Contact that is not necessarily premeditated or based solely on the severity of the act.
This type of foul may be strategic to stop the clock or create a situation that may be tactically done for the team taking action. This foul may be innocent in severity, but without any playing of the ball, it becomes an intentional act such as a player wrapping their arms around an opponent.
The act may be excessive in its intensity and force of the action. These actions are all intentional fouls and are to be called as such.
Officials must be aware of the game situations as the probability of fouling late in the game is an accepted coaching strategy and is utilized by many coaches in some form.
Officials must have the courage to enforce the intentional foul rule properly."

Here's a PowerPoint lesson used back then to create a working awareness of this POE:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t3...iN42-ocBPjDWkw
Very Helpful Freddie especially the Comment recognizing an Intended Foul to stop the clock and extend the game but it has to be done in a certain way not to trigger intentional.
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A player without the ball may or may not be involved in the play...fouling a cutter is fouling a player without the ball, but it may be a normal instinctive reaction that leads to the foul. So, I prefer to categorize the player as not being involved in the play.

Grabbing and holding onto a player away from the ball and not involved in the play in the closing part of the game (or any time for that matter) should be ruled intentional almost every time. It has no legitimate purpose aside form stopping the clock and putting a preferable player on the line.

The defense has to make at least a minimal effort to make the foul look like a legitimate defensive play.
Great example of a cutter and distinction...
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