Miss. St. - Liberty Vid Request

[jakeas2]

Mississippi St. - Liberty
13:28 left in 2nd half
Blocking foul called on Liberty player in transition.
Looks legal and then takes a step back into the restricted area.

[JRutledge]

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Peace

I just want to say that is a tough freaking play. I'm not going to criticize any official's judgement either way on this play. It is hard to see it in real-time, but that defender is 2 feet down in the path before A1 goes airborne, but his body is not vertical.

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[bob jenkins]

Charge

[IUgrad92]

At 12 seconds left and again with around 10 seconds left in the game, same Liberty player is shooting free throws. All 4 shots were made, and with all 4 shots the shooter clearly stepped into the lane prior to the ball hitting the rim or even close to being 'in the cylinder'.

My 6th grade son asks, 'Dad, why do our free throws get wiped off if we step on or over the free throw line, but the college players can do it?"

My reply, "No idea son, I have no idea."

Is this another inconsequential play/game interrupter deemed by the NCAA men's side? Or maybe the rule is different from NFHS?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Is this another inconsequential play/game interrupter deemed by the NCAA men's side? Or maybe the rule is different from NFHS?

The rule is absolutely the same. It is not a priority to some officials, to be frank. Not sure why it was not called here as I felt the very same way. I know we, in general, do not nitpick this, but there are high school officials that would not call this either. At the very least go talk to the kid and tell him he might violate.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

At 12 seconds left and again with around 10 seconds left in the game, same Liberty player is shooting free throws. All 4 shots were made, and with all 4 shots the shooter clearly stepped into the lane prior to the ball hitting the rim or even close to being 'in the cylinder'.



My 6th grade son asks, 'Dad, why do our free throws get wiped off if we step on or over the free throw line, but the college players can do it?"



My reply, "No idea son, I have no idea."



Is this another inconsequential play/game interrupter deemed by the NCAA men's side? Or maybe the rule is different from NFHS?

I go up to the shooter after the first free throw and let him know he needs to be aware of not violating.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I go up to the shooter after the first free throw and let him know he needs to be aware of not violating.

"Watch the line."

[bucky]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

My reply, "No idea son, I have no idea."

Maybe you were just trying to appease your son or did not want to get into a lengthy conversation that might be over his head. I am guessing that you were not telling the truth and that you do have an idea.

The answer is simple, discretion or the official did not see it. Presuming the official did see it and passed on it, that leaves discretion as the answer. Officials use discretion aaaallllll the time. Your son's age might actually be a good one at which to explain discretion.

[JRutledge]

Peace

[bucky]

I wish the first one was called. Then there would have been a huge outcry over the call. But, I bet the shooter would not have violated on the second one.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I just want to say that is a tough freaking play. I'm not going to criticize any official's judgement either way on this play. It is hard to see it in real-time, but that defender is 2 feet down in the path before A1 goes airborne, but his body is not vertical.

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I think it was a charge, but I can see why the officials would call it a block. I also don't see either official who is making a call point to the restricted area, so I don't think this was the basis for the blocking call. I think they felt he never established defensive position before the shooter went airborne.