Coach starts game sitting outside coaching box

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Raymond

And if folks across America are letting coaches sit above the 28 ft line why are they not T'ing them up the first time they stand up during a live ball?

Because even if the coach is sitting above the 28 ft line, he can still stand up in front of his chair to coach his team or applaud good play.




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[Raymond]

Originally Posted by WhistlesAndStripes

Because even if the coach is sitting above the 28 ft line, he can still stand up in front of his chair to coach his team or applaud good play.




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If he can stand up and coach his team from outside the coaching box, what's the purpose of the coaching box?

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[JRutledge]

I think it is silly on many levels. You telling me if a coach sits in a chair outside of the coaching box and we are not allowing that coach to stand in the coaching box ever? Well, what do we do if he/she changes seats? For example, they start sitting in a chair outside the box. Then we have a timeout or intermission and the coach sits in the box, we are not allowing them to do anything in that box?

That is silly. I get what the caseplay says, but that is very silly to expect that kind of enforcement. And often many gyms are not very well suited for the coaching box anyway.

Peace

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Raymond

If he can stand up and coach his team from outside the coaching box, what's the purpose of the coaching box?

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It allows him some freedom to wander.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

... above the 28 ft line why are they not T'ing them up the first time they stand up during a live ball?

Originally Posted by WhistlesAndStripes

Because even if the coach is sitting above the 28 ft line, he can still stand up in front of his chair to coach his team or applaud good play.

Originally Posted by WhistlesAndStripes

It allows him some freedom to wander.

This mighty be a good time to remind the young'uns that with the coaching box, even after receiving a technical foul and being "seatbelted", a head coach is still allowed to stand under a few circumstances:

- to request a timeout or signal his/her players to request a time-out.
- to confer with personnel at the scorer’s table to request a time-out for correctable error, or a timing, scoring or alternating-possession mistake.
- to replace or remove a disqualified/injured player or player directed to leave the game.
- during a charged time-out or the intermission between quarters and extra periods.
- to spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member or to acknowledge a replaced player.

If for some odd reason there isn't a coaching box, or if the coach has chosen not to use it by his seat choice outside the box (original topic of this thread), the above rules are in place for the entire game, even with no technical foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by WhistlesAndStripes

Because even if the coach is sitting above the 28 ft line, he can still stand up in front of his chair to coach his team or applaud good play.




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Originally Posted by BillyMac

This mighty be a good time to remind the young'uns that with the coaching box, even after receiving a technical foul and being "seatbelted", a head coach is still allowed to stand under a few circumstances:

- to request a timeout or signal his/her players to request a time-out.
- to confer with personnel at the scorer’s table to request a time-out for correctable error, or a timing, scoring or alternating-possession mistake.
- to replace or remove a disqualified/injured player or player directed to leave the game.
- during a charged time-out or the intermission between quarters and extra periods.
- to spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member or to acknowledge a replaced player.

If for some odd reason there isn't a coaching box, or if the coach has chosen not to use it by his seat choice outside the box (original topic of this thread), the above rules are in place for the entire game, even with no technical foul.

Nowhere on that list of circumstances do I see where a HC is allowed to stand outside the coaching box to "coach" his team. So, if a HC chooses to sit above the 28' line and stands to yell instructions to his team, that should be an automatic Technical Foul.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Nowhere on that list of circumstances do I see where a HC is allowed to stand outside the coaching box to "coach" his team ... stands to yell instructions to his team ...

"Hey Bobby. Call timeout", is for the most part, a relic of the past.

Probably haven't heard it in twenty years. The only time players request timeouts today is when they get in trouble, trapped against a boundary, on the floor, etc.

It happens so seldom that I often forget to remember the player's number when I report the timeout to the table, almost every single time out is requested by the head coach.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"Hey Bobby. Call timeout", is for the most part, a relic of the past.

Probably haven't heard it in thirty-five years. The only time players request timeouts today is when they get in trouble, trapped against a boundary, on the floor, etc.

It happens so seldom that I often forget to remember the player's number when I report the timeout to the table, almost every single time out is requested by the head coach.

I ALWAYS report the number when a player requests a time-out in case there is a discrepancy later on. Even if the book isn't recording numbers, by me saying out loud, it commits it to my memory.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"Hey Bobby. Call timeout", is for the most part, a relic of the past. Probably haven't heard it in twenty years.

Seemed longer. Fixed it.

1998: Head coach allowed to call timeout.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by WhistlesAndStripes

Because even if the coach is sitting above the 28 ft line, he can still stand up in front of his chair to coach his team or applaud good play.

I believe the NFHS wants to allow the coach to be closer to midcourt if desired but in using that option gives up the right to stand and coach from there.

That said, I can't say that I've ever even paid much attention to that.

[UNIgiantslayers]

I'm also firmly in the camp of "Who cares?" That is, unless he starts acting like a jerk, then I'll enforce the letter of the law.